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NFL draft Day 2 winners and losers: Packers do nothing to help Aaron Rodgers
 

Frank Schwab
Yahoo Sports
Apr 25, 2020, 12:03 AM

Maybe the Green Bay Packers got too caught up in history.

During the 2005 NFL draft, exactly 15 years before Thursday night’s first round, the Packers struck gold with Aaron Rodgers at pick No. 24. They had Brett Favre. They took Rodgers anyway. It worked out.

On Thursday night, the Packers made the most controversial pick of the draft, trading up to draft Utah State quarterback Jordan Love. On Friday night, their first pick was Boston College running back AJ Dillon, another odd pick. Dillon is a good player, but the Packers have Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams. The third-round pick was Cincinnati tight end Josiah Deguara, which was considered a major reach.

They need pass catchers. Badly. And with their first two picks, in a deep draft for receivers, the Packers got a long-term project at quarterback and a running back who won’t start right away. The third pick was a questionable tight end selection. That’s not getting Rodgers any closer to a Super Bowl.

Love will be debated for a long time. He probably won’t help until 2022, at best. And unlike Favre in 2005, Rodgers hasn’t given any indication he might retire soon.

Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst needs this pick to work out or he’ll never hear the end of it. It will be considered a huge mistake unless Rodgers wins another Super Bowl anyway, or if Love turns out to be as good as Gutekunst thinks he can be. You can blow a pick on a linebacker and nobody remembers. That’s not the case here.

The problem isn’t necessarily picking a quarterback when you still have one. It’s that the timing doesn’t work great with the Packers’ move.

It will be very hard for the Packers to get out of Rodgers’ deal before 2022. They’d have a $31.6 million dead cap hit in 2021 if he’s cut or traded before June 1 and a pair of $14.4 million hits in 2021 and 2022 if it happens after June 1, according to OverTheCap.com.

Unless the Packers want to blow away the NFL record for a dead cap charge — right now it’s Brandin Cooks’ $21.1 million for the Rams this year, $10 million less than that potential 2021 Rodgers cap hit — then they have Rodgers for at least two more years. Even if they wait until 2022 to part ways, the dead cap hit will still be $17.2 million. That’s not ideal.

In other words, the Packers just traded up for a quarterback who, in any realistic scenario, won’t start for two years and maybe not for three. It’s smart to not wait too long to think about a quarterback replacement, but that’s not a good allocation of resources.

The notion that the pick was made to motivate Rodgers is ludicrous. Rodgers doesn’t need motivation coming off an NFC championship game appearance. He needs competent receivers other than Davante Adams. Things move too fast in the NFL to worry much about what might happen in 2023.

“I know a lot of people will look at this as not a move for the immediate, and I understand that, but the balance of the immediate and the long-term is something that I have to consider and that’s why we did it,” Gutekunst said, according to The Athletic. “… Obviously, if there was a game-changer-type player at another position, we would have seriously considered that. We didn’t feel that there was, so we picked Jordan and were really happy to do it. I think you can make mistakes thinking you’re one player away from anything.”

Here’s a realistic timeline for Love: He sits for two years and the Packers move on from Rodgers. Love then gets one year to prove he’s the quarterback of the future before a decision has to be made on his fifth-year option. That happens after a first-round pick’s third season. The Packers won’t get much benefit of a quarterback on his rookie deal, like Russell Wilson with the Seattle Seahawks, Jared Goff with the Los Angeles Rams or Dak Prescott with the Dallas Cowboys. They also won’t have a long time to make important decisions on Love.

The last time the Packers made the Super Bowl was the 2010 season. They probably should have made it at least once more with Rodgers. The chances of Rodgers going to another Super Bowl took a pretty big hit when the Packers decided against getting him much help in this year’s draft.
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Aaron Rodgers probably isn't happy with the Packers' draft. (AP Photo/Ben Margot)

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beast
5 years ago
I disagree, I get it, they didn't directly get top level weapons to help Rodgers out.... but indirectly I think they're helping (well not the backup QB).

But last year they improved the defense, but the offense struggled and the defense eventually wore down making it a tight game. A do it all power RB, allows for more ground and pound, which should result in longer sustained slower drives letting the defense rest and taking pressure off the defense and QB, both of which should indirectly help Rodgers.

Also there are three super key skilled position in this offense scheme, obviously QB and RB (as they make the RB a focal point of the offense), but the less obviously is large slot receiver or TE. Rams have Cooper Kupp, 49ers have George Kittle.

Well with Josiah Deguara, to play the blocking role, that frees up Jace Sternberger to play that large slot/TE role, which should help Rodgers.

That and Sternberger and Dequara are both quite versatile. People are complaining about Dequara as he's strength aren't elite.... but what exactly is his weakness? Yeah he's not the most athletic, but none of the TEs selected in the 3rd were, and Dequara seems be versatility to line up anywhere and he plays quite smart with a lot of the little details and he's tenacious as hell. He doesn't have the great physical upside, but let this offense get the most out of verstility and scheming guys open and I think they'll have a player fans won't be complaining about, like I'm still complaining about Burks selection (he was a better athlete than football player in college, it was clear).

One of my biggest complaints/pet peeves is when players giving up on plays, and say, awe, he's close enough, let him have the rest and the TD as it'd be hard to catch him...

Against UCLA, 5 yard line, Dequara was blocking on the back side of a play and QB threw it 5 yard to the endzone, on the opposite sideline of Dequara, the desired receive jogged after the defender... Dequara chased him 60 yard down field and tackled his ass and he brings it every play.
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5 years ago
The draft has become apparent the plans are going to be. GB is going to take a page out of the SF book in the CG and run the ball 42 times ad pass only 8. Aaron is getting old and his performance has decreased. He's been injured and he has shown that he's afraid to throw the ball and risk an interception. That keeps the defense off the field and the other team from exploiting the Packer incredibly weak rush defense.

It's looking great for 2020 until Aaron calls and audible with the wrong hybrid package on the field every single play.


Never mind.
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go.pack.go.
5 years ago
This article basically hit the nail on the head. Not saying anything bad about Dillon, I just feel that we really missed out on receivers in this receiver-heavy draft. When receiver was arguably our biggest need.

I don’t know anything about the TE, never heard of him. But from what I’ve read, he was a pretty big reach. Maybe we did it because we don’t have a 4th round pick? Which is because we traded up for a QB.

I’m not a fan of this draft so far.
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go.pack.go.
5 years ago
Apparently the 49ers traded Marquise Goodwin to the Eagles. And the only thing they gave up for it was swapping 6th round picks. Man that would’ve been nice. I’m getting this information from a buddy of mine who’s an Eagles fan. I assume it’s all true.
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5 years ago

This had me laughing out loud. Does that make me an asshole?
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