Greg C.
16 years ago
I agree with Pack93z that they need to turn Hawk loose. I think they loaded him up with too many assignments right from the beginning. I'm not sure if that situation will improve in the 3-4, although I do know that I like him blitzing up the middle better than off the edge, so ILB definitely seems like the position for him.

Ray Lewis has said that playing ILB in the 3-4 is not nearly as fun as playing MLB in the 4-3, which makes me leery about how much Hawk will be able to use his instincts in this new defense. I'm hoping that there are at least a certain percentage of plays where they just tell Hawk to go get the QB or ballcarrier.

As for Reggie Bush, he has been a disappointment, but I would not label him a bust. He was pretty great in his rookie year and helped the Saints reach the playoffs. Even last year, he had some great punt returns, including two TD's in one game. There were always questions about whether he would be durable enough for the NFL. The high expectations were based on his big play ability, and he has shown that--just not as consistently as expected.
blank
DarkaneRules
16 years ago
In my fantasy world we would never fully be 3-4 but a hybrid defensive team.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
bozz_2006
16 years ago
well, if the addition of Kevin "Balls-Out" Greene to the coaching staff is any indication, I think the dogs will be turned loose this year.
UserPostedImage
tromadz
16 years ago

Hawk is as solid as they come

"dd80forever" wrote:




I like Hawk but I disagree with this assessment. He has been pedestrian thus far.

"FloridaPacker88" wrote:



Of course he is. I wonder if you'd say that if any other GM drafted him.

I question the intelligence of Packers fans and it pains me, I thought we were the best and the smartest.
Gravedigga
16 years ago

Hawk is as solid as they come

"tromadz" wrote:




I like Hawk but I disagree with this assessment. He has been pedestrian thus far.

"dd80forever" wrote:



Of course he is. I wonder if you'd say that if any other GM drafted him.

I question the intelligence of Packers fans and it pains me, I thought we were the best and the smartest.

"FloridaPacker88" wrote:



You thought wrong, as usual.
--------------------------------------------
UserPostedImage


A wise man once said
---------------------------------------------
You are weak, pathetic and immature..............I would have d
Cheesey
16 years ago

well, if the addition of Kevin "Balls-Out" Greene to the coaching staff is any indication, I think the dogs will be turned loose this year.

"bozz_2006" wrote:


THAT is EXACTLY what i'm looking forward too!
Greene is gonna have those guys foaming at the mouth!
UserPostedImage
zombieslayer
16 years ago
I would have picked Hawk at #5.

Barnett's name came up and I think Barnett is a solid MLB. The problem is not our players, but the Coaching. I think '09 will prove me right, now that we have real Defensive coaches.

We'll see....
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
millertime
16 years ago
Hawk was above average his first two seasons and below average last season.

It should be interesting to see how he'll do in the 3-4. I think he'll thrive being the designated run stopper, allowing Barnett (a former safety) to roam around and make plays. Add in Kampman and a solid rookie on the outsides to rush the passer and we'll have a defense that will hopefully be fun to watch.
Pack93z
16 years ago

Hawk was above average his first two seasons and below average last season.

"millertime" wrote:



Having watched the 07 season a couple of times.. Hawk tailed off about the Cowboy game on in 07 as well.. it was like he is slowly regressing into a mechanical robot at linebacker.. throwing away his instincts and processing information only after it has occurred, sometimes at less that a 8 bit process. ;)

This regression in play and how he plays, along with the sub par play at the other linebacker spots is the primary reason I still hold doubt about Moss as a coach. Even more as an assistant head coach if there was in-fighting among the defensive coaching staff. That would mean he was part of the problem and didn't effectively manage the discontent properly.

Also, I see it as poor structure to have a linebacker coach as the assistant head coach, the dynamic that is set with the DC/HC/LB Coach has got to be interesting to say the least.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Similar Topics
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    dfosterf (1m) : that from Jaire
    dfosterf (1m) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
    Zero2Cool (3m) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
    dfosterf (6m) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
    Zero2Cool (9m) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
    dfosterf (9m) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
    dfosterf (12m) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
    dfosterf (13m) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
    dfosterf (14m) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
    Zero2Cool (43m) : That someone ... likely the agent.
    Zero2Cool (44m) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
    Zero2Cool (44m) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
    Zero2Cool (1h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
    dfosterf (2h) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
    dfosterf (2h) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
    dfosterf (2h) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
    Zero2Cool (18h) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
    Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
    Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
    Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.
    dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move
    dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish
    Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need
    dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.
    dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.
    Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.
    dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation
    Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what
    Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife
    Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately
    Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.
    dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.
    Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not
    Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.
    Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?
    Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?
    Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb
    wpr (9-Apr) : yay
    Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland
    Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'
    Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*
    Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
    Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
    Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
    Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
    Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.
    Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Will there be a tracker on the ball or something?
    Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : uh oh
    Martha Careful (1-Apr) : Too bad camera's can't spot the ball as well.
    Mucky Tundra (1-Apr) : So will the chain gang be gone completely or will they still be around as a backup or whatever?
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
    Vikings
    Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
    Eagles
    Recent Topics
    1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    15-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    13-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    12-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

    11-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Rockmolder

    2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

    1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    30-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    29-Mar / Random Babble / wpr

    28-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    26-Mar / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

    25-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.