Are Packers most over rated team in playoffs?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

Click the link on the Tweet to read more. Do you agree? Does it matter even if the Packers are most over rated team?

As one of a number of NFC teams that fought for the top seed in the NFC, the Green Bay Packers eventually secured the No. 2 seed and a bye, but are they actually overrated? At 13-3, they were tied for the second-best record in the NFL after Baltimore, but obviously, the win-loss record doesn’t come close to telling the entire story.

At PFF, we grade every player on every play of each game in the NFL season, but we also have several more complex metrics that help us capture a more complete picture of the NFL landscape. According to our ELO rankings, for example, which adjusts for strength of competition among other variables, the Packers are the fifth-best team in the NFL overall, with the fourth-best defense.

If you look at the overall team grade, the picture is even less appealing, as they slip to eighth overall. The good news for the Packers, though, is that only two of the teams ranked above them are either in the NFC or still alive in the postseason, and one of those teams (the Minnesota Vikings) is 0-2 against them this season. The Packers certainly belong in the postseason, but just how good are they compared to the best teams in the league?

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Edit, one issue here is I don't think Adams missed more than 4 games. I think that might void this statement.
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wpr
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4 years ago

They can't possibly be the most overrated team. There is too much destain for them by the media and other fans.

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

4 years ago

For the first time I can remember all but one of the close games went our way. It used to be we tended to find a way to be on the losing side of close games.

We have had the fortune of being healthy which hasn't been the case for many years.

The team is a bit Jekyll and Hyde. If we play the game like we did the last game against the Vikings we can certainly get to the Super Bowl. However, if the Packers who played the Chargers show up we are going to be one and done.

As long as Aaron doesn't regress too much in the next couple of years we have quite a bit to be optimistic about in my opinion.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

For the first time I can remember all but one of the close games went our way. It used to be we tended to find a way to be on the losing side of close games.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

The Eagles game was a close one that didn't go our way. If I remember correctly, if the WR holds onto that ball, it's a TD and good chance the extra point puts the game into overtime.

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

4 years ago

Kind of makes me lose credibility for the article since they think Adams has missed “most of the year” lol. I guess 4 out of 16 is most of the year.

The Eagles game was a close one that didn't go our way. If I remember correctly, if the WR holds onto that ball, it's a TD and good chance the extra point puts the game into overtime.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

If I remember correctly, wasn’t there some interference on the defense on that play? I think I remember the corner getting there a bit early. It’s been a while though.

Nonstopdrivel
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4 years ago

warhawk
Senior Member

4 years ago

I get the over rated talk when looking at the multitude of stats these guys pump out and even the eye test at times. My take on this, however, is some stats count more than others and amount to more W's than others. The Packers are good when it comes to red zone defense, red zone offense, turnover ratio, and, rushing the passer. So when teams gain a lot of yards and burn the D for big plays it looks bad. Will anyone complain though if Metcalf goes over the top for a couple of big plays but the D ultimately keeps them out of the end zone? This is one thing the Packers have done consistently over the course of this year. Give up yards and big plays between the 20's and hold teams to FG's. It's not sexy but it has certainly worked out for them in the end and if this style make them appear over rated than so be it.

"The train is leaving the station."

beast
Select Member

4 years ago

How can they be more over rated than a team they beat twice? The Vikings?

But yeah the Packers might be the most over rated 13-3 team, fairly weak schedule, and got hell of a lucky with a number of wins... and at times the entire team lucked out that Z & P Smith, and Clark just dominanted the other teams OL.

Also at times the passing game looked like college out there, because Rodgers was so off...

Does that matter? Hell no, what matters is do they keep winning! And their final spot.

But Packers are a lot further from consistent doing well than a lot of people think, until Rodgers can suddenly start looking like his old self.

Rodgers might.need to hear negative stuff to get that chip back on his shoulder until he gets fully locked in, with the new system.

Also his footwork at times on the short passes is horrible, which is why his passes are more off than expected...

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

4 years ago

You know what, fuck this bullshit!

Where was this under rated talk when we were unlucky in games? When we lost numerous narrow games? No one said shit about us being under rated or far better than our record. In fact, we got to have "you are what your record is" mantra over and over.

Packers earned their 13 wins and their 3 losses. If you got a problem with that, fuck you!

Porforis
Veteran Member

4 years ago

#10

Whoa nelly.

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beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach

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Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks

packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind

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packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?

beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.

Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.

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Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league

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Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why

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beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"

Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."

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Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Bears get OL fixed amd we might have a problem

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beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them

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Cheesey (17-Nov) : If the Badgers had a decent QB, they would have won. The guy can't hit a wide open receiver

Martha Careful (17-Nov) : chop block

Martha Careful (17-Nov) : there was a very questionable job Block call that upon viewing replay was very borderline

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Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Badgers got hosed vs Oregon

packerfanoutwest (16-Nov) : damn,he hasn't played since week 2

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