Zero2Cool
4 years ago
Blake Martinez is a tackling machine! 2017 tied for 1st, and 2018 and 2019 he finished 2nd in the NFL in tackles. That's pretty damn impressive. Yet, fans dog this guy all the time. Why? The guy had a clutch sack against the Lions. Then he had a clutch interception.

I know some of you would like to see the guy walk. I'm not in that boat. I am hoping he gets a 3 year extension and stays. I think he's pretty damn and when he gets that club off his hand, he'll be even better.
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yooperfan
4 years ago
Letting productive players walk was a Ted Thompson trick.
I'm betting Gutekunst resigns Martinez.
gbguy20
4 years ago
All the complaints on Blake are the same complaints aj hawk had (what's funny is no one name drops him while doing it though). Not enough splash plays and most tackles happen down the field or directly after giving up the catch. I'm on the fence with it. Probably depends on who we have in mind as a replacement. Hard to ignore the massive tackle numbers and get rid of the QB of our defense.
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4 years ago

All the complaints on Blake are the same complaints aj hawk had (what's funny is no one name drops him while doing it though). Not enough splash plays and most tackles happen down the field or directly after giving up the catch. I'm on the fence with it. Probably depends on who we have in mind as a replacement. Hard to ignore the massive tackle numbers and get rid of the QB of our defense.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



I was thinking the same thing. It was kinda funny how people hated Hawk and it then fell on Martinez. Fans have grumbled about the Packers ILBers for years. Before Hawk it was Nick Barnett. Before him, Nate Wayne.

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yooperfan
4 years ago

I was thinking the same thing. It was kinda funny how people hated Hawk and it then fell on Martinez. Fans have grumbled about the Packers ILBers for years. Before Hawk it was Nick Barnett. Before him, Nate Wayne.

Originally Posted by: wpr 


Yeah, I was going to bring up Barnett as well.

go.pack.go.
4 years ago
Martinez is a reliable player in terms of health. He seems like a good leader of the defense, too. He’sa liability in coverage though and seems really slow.

I don’t think we should let him walk, but I don’t think we should over pay for him either. The position definitely needs some attention, but I think it needs attention beside Martinez. Getting rid of him and replacing him with someone else is not really fixing the issue. It’s just leaving the same hole in the roster.
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beast
4 years ago

Letting productive players walk was a Ted Thompson trick.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 


Bullshit! Thompson overpaid his own and kept most of the ones worth keeping.

A few got away, but you literally can't keep everyone because of the cap and roster limits.
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beast
4 years ago

Blake Martinez is a tackling machine! 2017 tied for 1st, and 2018 and 2019 he finished 2nd in the NFL in tackles. That's pretty damn impressive. Yet, fans dog this guy all the time. Why? The guy had a clutch sack against the Lions. Then he had a clutch interception.

I know some of you would like to see the guy walk. I'm not in that boat. I am hoping he gets a 3 year extension and stays. I think he's pretty damn and when he gets that club off his hand, he'll be even better.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'm certainly not among that ones assuming he walks, I think it largely depends on what his market price demands.

That being said, I think people don't like him because he's an average athlete, and fans get caught up with flash, and he has very little flash, he's just a limited athletically in coverage, but if he gets his hand and forearm on someone, it's almost a sure take down... where as some other players can get two hands/forarms and shoulder and sometimes more on a guy and the guy bounces off and keeps running.

Martinez is an average athlete, but he has literally maximum his tackling ability where if he can reach them, and get take them down. Only real problem with Martinez is his coverage ability, where it'd be nice to have a very very good coverage LB that can match-up with TEs and maybe slot WRs (with help over the top for deep routes), like they were hoping for in Burks, but they've had to use Safeties in that role, but they can't seem to find and develop a LB for the role.

I think it comes down to price/cost analysis, and I haven't checked that out, so I don't know. But I find it interesting that the Browns are reportedly expected to let ILB Joe Schobert (a better athlete, and a decent tackler) walk in FAs, which my pure guess it's because they don't like the price/cost analysis of keeping him, of what it would take, to the value he brings.

And one guy I've had my eye on since the 2016 draft, ILB Nick Kwiatkoski currently on the Bears.... he's been forced into a back-up role due to leader and unofficial captain Danny Trevathan and 1st round great Roquan Smith at the same position, until Trevathan horrible looking elbow injury (which sounds like might be better than it looked). But both Trevathan and Kwiatkoski are FAs, the Bears might resign one, and if we're losing Martinez, I might ask the other one if they want to follow Amos and join the division winners. That's if we're losing Martinez.

So I don't think it's that the Packers want to get rid of Martinez, they probably love him, but they also might not want to over pay, and he MIGHT get overpaid.
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Cheesey
4 years ago
We haven’t had a decent LB since Ray Nitschke.










Just kidding!🤪
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yooperfan
4 years ago

We haven’t had a decent LB since Ray Nitschke.










Just kidding!🤪

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
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