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One liners from Reddit. 

With 1 game left, Z Smith is 3.5 sacks from DOUBLING his best year



Friendly reminder: We‘re 16 yards away from having a 1k yards rusher again!



On this day, 26 years ago, the best touchdown celebration was created, the Lambeau Leap.



Billy Turner Kinda Sucks




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5 years ago
Is Billy Turner that bad? I haven’t watched him all that much but I think he’s better than what we had last year.
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5 years ago
Billy is just fine.
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5 years ago
Billy posts low scores based on the PFF rating system so people love to complain about him.
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5 years ago
WPR, I don’t know that anyone necessarily loves to complain about him, but I think to be fair, relative to the three other excellent free agent signings, he has been the least productive.

Of course he is an upgrade over last year, but it was our weakest position on the team so that comparison is setting a pretty low bar.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, he doesn’t suck and I wish we would use him in a more athletic fashion such as pulling him occasionally to trap or on sweeps.
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WPR, I don’t know that anyone necessarily loves to complain about him, but I think to be fair, relative to the three other excellent free agent signings, he has been the least productive.

Of course he is an upgrade over last year, but it was our weakest position on the team so that comparison is setting a pretty low bar.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, he doesn’t suck and I wish we would use him in a more athletic fashion such as pulling him occasionally to trap or on sweeps.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



I am not overly critical of Billy. He's certainly not the same quality as the Smiths or Amos. But I can not imagine anyone thinking he would be. The way I see it is if he's the worst player on the offense the Packers are in pretty good shape.

PFF stats: 
2019 SEASON STATS
OFFENSE SNAPS PLAYED 988 14th
PENALTIES 2 T-57th
SACKS ALLOWED 6 T-3rd
(Stat rankings versus all other G.)

Everything else such as pressures and QB hits are in their premium site. I've read/heard that he's rated low in other areas besides sacks allowed. They have him rated at 54.9 but I don't know if that is for the whole season or what.
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5 years ago
Saw this on reddit earlier this week as it was the seven(!) year anniversary of this iconic image

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5 years ago
WPR waxed:

But I can not imagine anyone thinking he would be. The way I see it is if he's the worst player on the offense the Packers are in pretty good shape....I've read/heard that he's rated low in other areas besides sacks allowed. They have him rated at 54.9 but I don't know if that is for the whole season or what.

Frankly, at $7mm a year, I expected more. IIRC, there were other guards available who I think were better and more proven.

Yes he is an upgrade, but I was hoping for an athletic mauler, who alongside Bulaga, would make a "go-to" 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 combination.

Quite frankly, I wonder if they shouldn't flip Turner and Jenkins.
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5 years ago

WPR waxed:Frankly, at $7mm a year, I expected more. IIRC, there were other guards available who I think were better and more proven.

Yes he is an upgrade, but I was hoping for an athletic mauler, who alongside Bulaga, would make a "go-to" 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 combination.

Quite frankly, I wonder if they shouldn't flip Turner and Jenkins.

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Yeah, seems like he was overpaid, pocketing $11 million this year, but he's less than $6 million each of the next three.

With his level of play, I get nervous every time someone suggest just moving him to OT if Bulaga can't go, because I don't think that's a good answer, if he's struggled this much at OG, he'll probably struggle a lot more at OT.

Also he's not horrible, he's just average... a slight upgrade over Taylor, but I wouldn't say that much... of course the NFL seems to be going though an OL shortage of sorts, so maybe average is better than actual average. But he might be the worst of the interior OL.

MM make an interesting point that you want a better LG than RG, because with a right handed QB, you'll roll out to the right, so to get the play action to work best, you run it to the left to get defenders to move even further away from the rolling out QB.

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Yeah, seems like he was overpaid, pocketing $11 million this year, but he's less than $6 million each of the next three.

With his level of play, I get nervous every time someone suggest just moving him to OT if Bulaga can't go, because I don't think that's a good answer, if he's struggled this much at OG, he'll probably struggle a lot more at OT.

Also he's not horrible, he's just average... a slight upgrade over Taylor, but I wouldn't say that much... of course the NFL seems to be going though an OL shortage of sorts, so maybe average is better than actual average. But he might be the worst of the interior OL.

Mike McCarthy make an interesting point that you want a better LG than RG, because with a right handed QB, you'll roll out to the right, so to get the play action to work best, you run it to the left to get defenders to move even further away from the rolling out QB.

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2 very good comments. Perhaps slightly below avg if you only use PFF but I am willing to give him a little slack.

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