Rodgers and LaFleur · PACKERSHOME

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

There were stories all offseason about Rodgers and LaFleur having tension and having disagreements. As well as having a battle of power.

After the Bears game, Rodgers made several comments on “good calls by Matt”. Not to mention giving him the game ball.

My question is, where are all of the articles now?

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beast
Select Member

5 years ago

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go.

Great point, but as they said, those articles were false stories. That being said, what were these "good calls by Matt"? Rodgers got some false stories of his own? OR did these good calls just not let to a better offensive performance than what we got?

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

GPG asked 'where are the stories now about Lefleur and Rodgers?'

The first rule of muckraking is that you must save you dirty laundry and innuendo for when they are not easily disproven or where are elements of doubt. Otherwise, the muckraker loses his leverage. These stories will only come up after a loss or sub-par performance.

Then you can expect the following to be asked. They will never be asked after a win, especially over the Bares:
- 'Aaron, did you agree with the call?'
- 'Do you think you had the right personnel grouping for the situation"
- 'Why are your numbers so much worse under Lafleur than McCarthy/'

- 'Coach, did you thing Aaron should have changed that play.'
- 'Why do you thing his performance is down? Isn't he buying in?

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

dyeah_gb
Member

5 years ago

Actually there are a couple legitimate stories to pursue here.

The incomplete pass towards the end of the 4th quarter was likely an audible by Aaron Rodgers after seeing how far the DB was playing the line of scrimmage. If I was MLF, I would be pissed at this play even if it was converted to a first down. In the language of an elite QB, it was a "stupid %$%$% call." It would be interesting to be in the room to hear that discussion between coach and QB.

Another more general story after week 1 is that we have a new coach but are still seeing some of the same bad patterns. Clock management is a problem and Aaron Rodgers trying to generate the scramble play. How is MLF going to correct these issues?

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman

gbguy20
Veteran Member

5 years ago

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb

As far as your last paragraph is concerned in hoping those 2 things disappear as the offense clicks over the next couple of weeks. I like to think Rodgers can get the ball out quick on every play in this new offense. And I like to think we can snap the ball at 10 seconds every time once the communication gets better.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

5 years ago

This is a concern many of us have had with Aaron Rodgers. The reason Tom Brady and Drew Brees excel in the later years of their career is because they are willing to take what the defense gives them. Rodgers doesn't do this anymore. If LaFleur gets Rodgers to take check downs and move the chains, we gonna rock some shit.

KRK
Veteran Member

5 years ago

dyeah_gb documented:

The incomplete pass towards the end of the 4th quarter was likely an audible by Aaron Rodgers after seeing how far the DB was playing the line of scrimmage

Great point.

These are questions that need to be asked 'NOW', but they won't be by the press. They will stick the incident into their hip pocket and in after the next lose in order to create maximum friction.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

5 years ago

Anyone who thinks there is still tension between Rodgers and LaFleur should watch this video:

Mic'd Up: Rodgers calls his 5 touchdowns vs. Raiders

Incidentally, I've commented multiple times on how much presnap motion we're seeing from the Packers this season, something that was virtually absent from Mike McCarthy's offense, particularly toward the end of his tenure in Green Bay. Turns out the Packers are sending players in motion on 63 percent of plays to lead the league. A new era really has begun at 1265 Lombardi Avenue.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

5 years ago

It’s good to see an offense that the other team can’t automatically know what’s coming.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Man, this team seems to have to deep and sincere chemistry. I heard an "I love you" in there somewhere, although I don't think it was Rodgers. I know things are great when a team is winning, but the difference from the past couple of years is pretty amazing.

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