go.pack.go.
5 years ago
I’m not wasting my time studying this too intensely, but if it’s going based off of completion percentage, that’s bullshit. There are so many factors that go into having a completed pass. Throw aways due to pressure, throw aways due to nobody being open, throw aways due to having a broken knee & can’t escape pressure, dropped passes, etc.

And let’s not forget our receivers have sucked the last couple years.
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Cheesey
5 years ago
First.....who the heck is “Ben Baldwin???” And why is what he thinks important?
Look at 2010 when the Packers won the super bowl. Rodgers only threw 28 touchdowns. Yet the year he threw 45 TDS, they were bounced out of the playoffs early.
And like go pack said, so much goes into completion percentage. This year, there have been a lot of drops. Plays that guys like Adams and Jordy would have caught. So by JUST completion count, that has a lot more variables then just on Rodgers shoulders.
I’d rather see him making smart decisions like he has this last couple of games, and leading the team to wins.
And now he knows he has a defense that can keep us in games, he can RELAX, and use his brain as well as his arm. He no longer has to do it all. He actually has some back up.
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nyrpack
5 years ago
Glad he is still the qb of the team I love, I will always support #12. !!
jimmy b.
shield4life
5 years ago
Aaron Rodgers is the reason why the receivers are dropping the passes.

Last I checked ... 2 of his INT are due to dropped passes this year.

Next analyst please ...
Glad To Be A Packers Fan.
Cheesey
5 years ago
Stats, when not in context are misleading.
As was already stated, 2 INTS were solely on mistakes by the WRs.
And so many dropped passes.
Rodgers can only throw the ball. It’s up to the receivers to catch it.
Look at the perfectly thrown ball to Aaron Jones that would have been a TD. He dropped what should have been an easy catch and score.
The INT that Shepherd SHOULD have caught at the goal line that should have been first and goal. Off his face mask and into the DBs hands.
Rodgers is charged with a INT. A perfect throw messed up by the WR.
But the STAT only shows a interception.
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5 years ago
Statistics are great for those people who can’t understand what’s going on in front of them. Ben Baldwin is likely this type of individual.

I don’t need statistics to tell me that 12 has been fantastic the last two games.

I don’t need statistics to tell me that for the last three years, opponents had figured out McCarthy’s offense.

I don’t need statistics to tell me that the Packers have not had great receivers for the last several years.

For the next two years, there is still no other quarterback I would rather have on my team than Rodgers....bar NONE.
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
Barfarn
5 years ago

Statistics are great for those people who can’t understand what’s going on in front of them. Ben Baldwin is likely this type of individual.

I don’t need statistics to tell me that 12 has been fantastic the last two games.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



If one understands football, Baldwin’s stats match reality EXACTLY. Problem for typical fans comes from only being able to process Rodgers’ play thru results; and when a play fails, the idolizers look for others to blame.

The world was informed right in this forum that Rodgers’ decision making tanked the bye week of 2015, coinciding with Rodgers’ excommunicating his family from his life. Hobbled the last half of ’16; Rodgers seemingly returned; but as his ankle healed Doppleganger returned and Rodgers has not been seen since.

To understand Doppleganger only one play needs to be viewed: the TD pass to Lizard. 3rd and 5 on Det 31, 2 scores down and it is nowhere near panic time for nonchockers.

NOW LOOK AT THE DAMN PLAY and learn:

Read 1 is MVS on a shallow cross left to right.

Read 2a and 2b is Kumerow and Graham running a shallow and deep slant, respectively, from right to left. Given Det’s defensive alignment, pre-snap this is the place anticipated to go!!!

Lizard’s [Left] responsibility is to go deep to clear out the left side for the parallel slants of read 2a/2b [Rodgers should be on alert for deep throw to Lizard if there's a blown coverage, which did NOT occur].

Kumerow is WIDE OPEN by 6 yards short left. EASY throw, EASY first and WR gets 10+ YAC.

But, Rodgers threw into blanket coverage. It took an amazing throw to even have a chance; but still the DB had a chance to make an exceptional play leaving Crosby w/ a 48-yard FG attempt. Securing the first is what an elite QB would have done. Rodgers panicked and/or at the expense of the team, he was turning his lobby efforts for Lizard into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

This is exactly how Cutler played [Though Cutler couldn’t have made that unbelievable throw in his dreams]. Dozens of bad decisions that resulted in a handful of plays that look great to the fan, but those same bad decisions end multiple drives in a game. Last 2 drives stopped on downs because of Rodgers’ decision making [Bailed out by one ref on the take-Flowers was doing that all game].

Shepard’s INT was a similar bad decision: Rodgers was looking off the safety for too long trying to get the ball to Graham for the TD, instead of focusing on the 1st. Rodgers knew he had to get the TD stat there or the glory goes to a RB. Shepard was WIDE OPEN, but Rodgers got to Shepard’s read late, threw behind Shepard; opening up the door for disaster. If Rodgers just went thru his damn progressions he’d have hit Shepard in the chest, leaving 1st and G on the 1 or 2. Shamefully, Rodgers may also have been consciously depriving Shepard of success to prove Lizard should get more snaps.

Baldwin is correct, Rodgers is not elite; he’s much closer to being just an ass, who makes an occasional play that no one else can make. Don't be fooled by the glitz.
Cheesey
5 years ago
Yup Barfarn....Rodgers sucks. He’s one of the worst QBs in the league.
Stats are the only thing that matters.

I guess you only remember plays where Rodgers isn’t “perfect”.
Selective memory.
What ever doesn’t fit your desired hatred of Rodgers gets ignored.

Tell me, which of the 32 starting QBs in the NFL would fit your expectations as being a perfect QB?
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Zero2Cool
5 years ago

Baldwin is correct, Rodgers is not elite; he’s much closer to being just an ass, who makes an occasional play that no one else can make. Don't be fooled by the glitz.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



If this is not elite, I am perfectly okay having our QB being closed to "just an ass".


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