Cheesey
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5 years ago
If none of the starters such as Rodgers, Davonte Adams, Aaron Jones and Williams don’t play at all in this last game, do you think they will be up to speed for the Bears?
Going from nothing but practice, almost all against their own team, will they truely be ready for a team that will want to knock their blocks off?
Especially being a new offensive scheme.
What do you all think?
I have to admit, it worries me.
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buckeyepackfan
5 years ago
I know The Bears have done the same.
So no advantage 1st game.

You play how you practice.

I think the 1st offense is better off going against the 1st defense in practice compared to running 10 - 12 plays against a vanilla defense in a meaningless preseason game.


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Zero2Cool
5 years ago
The Rams didn't play starters in preseason and I think they got into the Super Bowl. I think practice matters more than anything. The live bullets help, but perfect practice makes perfect.
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wpr
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5 years ago
I hate it.

Coaches tell us the PS games don't matter. They say the players get all the important reps in practice. Even the plays they run don't matter because they are vanilla and won't be used when the games matter.

The League and front office tell us the PS games DO matter to determine who the best 53 are. (Or else why would they want to play all those fake games at all?) Of course if the players union backs down and gives the NFL 2 more real games they would be more than happy to drop 2 of the PS games. *wink, wink*

Eliminate all PS games. There is nothing worse than watching elite players lose an entire season in meaningless games. Put in the controlled scrimmages with very limited contact. If they are not willing to do that, all players who are #1 on the depth chart have to play the first half of all four PS games.
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beast
5 years ago
I don't mind the vanilla calls, as it puts players on a more equal playing field... and makes it easier to evaluate the players. Where if you're blitzing all the time, the players that gets home looks exciting, but really they might be worse than a guy that didn't get as many blitz chances or that got double teamed.

So the vanilla works as far as evaluating, which is important at this point in the season.
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wpr
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5 years ago

I don't mind the vanilla calls, as it puts players on a more equal playing field... and makes it easier to evaluate the players. Where if you're blitzing all the time, the players that gets home looks exciting, but really they might be worse than a guy that didn't get as many blitz chances or that got double teamed.

So the vanilla works as far as evaluating, which is important at this point in the season.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I agree. The point is teams run plays in the PS that they won't run during the season. Or if they do it'll be less than 10% of the time.
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nerdmann
5 years ago
It matters to me because:

1: This is a new offense. The guys gotta sync up with each other, get some reps under live bullets, see what issues come up, so they don't have to troubleshoot them on the road in week 1 against Chicago.

2: The whole thing comes across as if Aaron got his way by defying his head coach. Whether or not it's true, Aaron has NOT silenced the critics on that issue. On the contrary, he has fed the shit talkers.

HOWEVER, there may be some small advantage in that Chicago won't have any game footage of Aaron running this offense.
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steveishere
5 years ago

It matters to me because:

1: This is a new offense. The guys gotta sync up with each other, get some reps under live bullets, see what issues come up, so they don't have to troubleshoot them on the road in week 1 against Chicago.

2: The whole thing comes across as if Aaron got his way by defying his head coach. Whether or not it's true, Aaron has NOT silenced the critics on that issue. On the contrary, he has fed the shit talkers.

HOWEVER, there may be some small advantage in that Chicago won't have any game footage of Aaron running this offense.

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I guess the whole league is just getting Aarons way then because week 3 which is typically "dress rehersal week" had most teams if they actually played starters only do like a quarter or so.
nerdmann
5 years ago

I guess the whole league is just getting Aarons way then because week 3 which is typically "dress rehersal week" had most teams if they actually played starters only do like a quarter or so.

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That's normal. Now also consider that most of those teams are NOT in the first preseason of installing/learning/practicing a brand new offensive system under a new head coach.

I mean I hope we will be fine, but it just feeds the naysayers.
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steveishere
5 years ago

That's normal. Now also consider that most of those teams are NOT in the first preseason of installing/learning/practicing a brand new offensive system under a new head coach.

I mean I hope we will be fine, but it just feeds the naysayers.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



No it's not normal, teams used to play starters for like 3 quarters in week 3. The whole league is collectively saying they don't think it's worth risking their starters for preseason snaps. There was a 0 percent chance even if we played starters on offense that they actually ran the new system anyways. Sure some preseason snaps could be useful but I really doubt it has any significant impact on the season as a whole. They've taken what probably 1000+ snaps throughout training camp actually running the system and now 20 or so more snaps against another team running vanilla plays was going to change much?
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