Zero2Cool
5 years ago
Do you want him on the Packers? What do think is fair trade offering?

The salary stuff, I don't even know how to start that!

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Cheesey
5 years ago
I’d like to have him here, but I doubt they will pull the trigger.
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beast
5 years ago
I think he'd be a perfect fit for Pettine's defense, but I think they already addressed this with Z. Smith and Gary both of which are similar fits.

Gute has been mostly been releasing veterans to open up playing time for young guys with potential. Not adding veteran that block them... so if Gary is healthy, I don't see Gute considering it.

Even if Gary is not healthy, I think whomever trades for Clowny is gonna want to resign him and Packers have so much invested there already.
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nerdmann
5 years ago

I think he'd be a perfect fit for Pettine's defense, but I think they already addressed this with Z. Smith and Gary both of which are similar fits.

Gute has been mostly been releasing veterans to open up playing time for young guys with potential. Not adding veteran that block them... so if Gary is healthy, I don't see Gute considering it.

Even if Gary is not healthy, I think whomever trades for Clowny is gonna want to resign him and Packers have so much invested there already.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Disagree. He's a traditional edge guy. Pettine likes these 288 lb guys who can stuff the run, he schemes them to the QB.

He's good tho. Would Aaron be willing to take a pay cut?
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beast
5 years ago

Disagree. He's a traditional edge guy. Pettine likes these 288 lb guys who can stuff the run, he schemes them to the QB.

He's good tho. Would Aaron be willing to take a pay cut?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



You can disagree, but that just makes you mistaken ... Clowney is a big, long, power edge rusher who can stuff the run, just like the others, and of course all coaches try scheming him to the QB too!

Clowny has publicly admitted to weighting in at 284 lbs but perfering to be lighter... where all I can quickly find about Z'Smith or Gary is being in the 270s.
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nerdmann
5 years ago

You can disagree, but that just makes you mistaken ... Clowney is a big, long, power edge rusher who can stuff the run, just like the others, and of course all coaches try scheming him to the QB too!

Clowny has publicly admitted to weighting in at 284 lbs but perfering to be lighter... where all I can quickly find about Z'Smith or Gary is being in the 270s.

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I have him listed at 255. He's tall and thin imo. He's not a OLB/DT hybrid.

I do like him, but we're paying Aaron 25+ this year. Don't have the camp space.
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5 years ago
Boys, it s a mute point:
[list][*]We don't have the money[*]If we did, we would spend it elsewhere[*]We just signed the Smiths and Gary, so we should be set.[/list]
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beast
5 years ago

I have him listed at 255. He's tall and thin imo. He's not a OLB/DT hybrid.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

They're all tall, and he's not the only thin one... you're making this a beauty contest and all about looks. I'm talking about what they can actually do on the football field if asked to do the same thing.

Also you do know an OLB/DT hybird is simply called a DE right? And despite what you think, they can all play DE. Hell, they had Matthews doing it (with a hand up) for a while with the 3-4 giving way to the 4-2 nickel packages and Mathews is smaller than all of them.

Boys, it s a mute point:
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  • We don't have the money
  • If we did, we would spend it elsewhere[*]We just signed the Smiths and Gary, so we should be set.[/list]

    Originally Posted by: KRK 

  • That was my point, we already got similar players which locked up a lot of talent capital.
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    nerdmann
    5 years ago

    They're all tall, and he's not the only thin one... you're making this a beauty contest and all about looks. I'm talking about what they can actually do on the football field if asked to do the same thing.

    Also you do know an OLB/DT hybird is simply called a DE right? And despite what you think, they can all play DE. Hell, they had Matthews doing it (with a hand up) for a while with the 3-4 giving way to the 4-2 nickel packages and Mathews is smaller than all of them.

    That was my point, we already got similar players which locked up a lot of talent capital.

    Originally Posted by: beast 


    Yeah, like Kabeer. Kampman too. But Pettine wants these bigger dudes. "War Daddies."

    Anyway it's moot given all the money tied up at the QB position.

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    Zero2Cool
    5 years ago
    Texans looking for a Tackle. Maybe they trade Bryan Bulaga for Clowney?

    Dhazer says Dolphins and Packers are the two teams talking to Texans about Clowney.
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