buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
Traded 12 for 15 and rnd 2 - 14.
Traded 15 for 24 and rnd 2 - 3.
The 3 guys who always seem to be there at bottom of 1st and top of 2nd are Thompson, D.Bush, and Fant .
Adderly has always been available at 44
P. Campbell has been moving up, if he isn't available rnd 3 pick 11, Deebo is always available rnd 4 pick 12.
Thompson is top rated safety, Bush is rated as 1st day pick and Fant is top 3 TE

This is what I have found by running many drafts.

Round 1 Pick 24 (OAK): Thompson, Deionte, FS, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 30: Bush, Devin, OLB, Michigan
Round 2 Pick 3 (OAK): Fant, Noah, TE, Iowa
Round 2 Pick 12: Adderly, Nassir CB/FS
Round 2 Pick 14 (WASH): Edwards, David,OT,Wisconsin
Round 3 Pick 11: Bryant, Austin, DE, Clemson
Round 4 Pick 12: Samuel, Deebo, WR, South Carolina
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Smokey
6 years ago


I am not sure if any of the QBs are worth the 12 pick, but I do like Kyler Murray. Too bad he is so small. I just worry he will not last in this league. Would be exciting to draft him though as he sure is a fun QB to watch.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Kyler Murray may turn out to be great. I like the old saying,"Its not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog."

As for trading down with the picks, I'm not in favor of it this season. 😎
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KRK
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6 years ago
Smokey,

I always enjoy your take on things, but I am more inclined to agree with Buckeye, Nerd, and TKT on this one. My justification:
[list=1][*]This is a great year to trade down. IMO, alot of value in rounds 2-4, esp 2.[*]I prefer a quarterback who has the ability to win without using his legs. And IMO Murray doesn't. Daniel Jones does. I they could trade back and get an extra high 2, and he were there. I would take him.[/list]
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
Once again if Bosa or J. Allen would happen to fall to 5 or below, I have no problem with a trade up to get either.
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Smokey
6 years ago

Once again if Bosa or J. Allen would happen to fall to 5 or below, I have no problem with a trade up to get either.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



What would you trade "up" with? 😁
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gbguy20
6 years ago
I'd be ok moving back from 12 to 15ish if we net another 2nd out of the deal. We'd probably still get our guy and then having 4 picks in the first 2 rounds would be nuts. We could really stack the deck in the first 3 rounds.
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Smokey
6 years ago
I don't want to see GB trade any of their picks in the first 4 draft rounds. I want GB to use those picks to grab high quality position players that will contribute for years to come.

Getting their hands on a great new TE or WR or OT would be super. Trading for players that are just average is not an improvement to the TEAM .

[boxing]

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Cheesey
6 years ago
That’s true Smokey. Just getting a lot of guys instead of shooting for possible stars doesn’t seem smart at this point.
They have to try for quality over quantity, as we don’t have much time to develop players. Our future HOF QB is running out of time to win another super bowl. They need to shoot for NOW over years from now.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

Don’t you think it kind of stinks that you have to disclose who you are interviewing? What is the purpose for this disclosure?

Originally Posted by: KRK 


If I recall correctly, last year the only intersection between the set of whom the Packers interviewed and whom the Packers drafted occurred in the later rounds. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if there is some measure of gamesmanship that goes into Gutekunst's selection of players to interview—if, in other words, he chooses an assortment of names calculated to throw other teams off the scent. In fact, I'd be astonished if such considerations don't play into the calculus: While I have no doubt Gutekunst intends to skew heavily to the offensive side of the ball in this year's draft, his crop of interviewees strikes me as suspiciously homogeneous. Showing your hand went out of style with the Andrew Luck pick—if indeed it was ever in vogue at all—and teams have played their cards much closer to the vest ever since. It's all an elaborate game of outlandishly high-stakes poker in the end.
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Smokey
6 years ago
Interviewing and spotlighting players as prospects is indeed a part of the "Shell Game" that GM's play. Placing players in the public eye can falsely elevate a players value and possibly influence a rival to possibly pick them. Also, even if GB does not chose them, the Packers some insight into interviewed players. I would think that every team has a file on every player or potential NFL player. Knowledge after all is the foundation winners use to get/stay on top.

[cheers]

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