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ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago

Majik was a fan favorite. I don't know how anyone can deny it. Either you weren't paying attention or you did not live in Green Bay or close to it, because he was a huge fan favorite and when he went down. Fans lost hope, the little we had.

The comment about Rodgers whining behind the scenes, no. We can start another one if you'd like. Charles Woodson secretly whined behind the scenes that he wanted Brett out because he couldn't play in the cold anymore. See how easy that is? Now you can go to another website and say you heard Woodson whined about wanting Favre out behind the scenes. lol.

The switch from Majik to Favre, no where near the switch from Favre to Rodgers. What made it worse for Rodgers was Favre unretiring and then going public with everything he could think of.

The media was not too relevant during '92 as it was in '08. When everything you say and do is recorded, printed, YouTube'd, blogged, etc, it makes it helluva lot harder.


Rodgers has a harder path than Favre when it comes to a media standpoint. When it comes to football, Rodgers had a better situation than Favre. Favre didn't even know what a Cover 2 was when he started. Or some defensive scheme, I can't recall which one he said.

The two situations are different, way different, yes.

"SlickVision" wrote:




I'm really not sure where you're coming from, here - the comment about Rodgers whining was one I read here, not something I'm making up to prove a point. It illustrates the level of backlash that Rodgers has experienced and is still experiencing. Again, something I read here, not something I made up. Is it easy to make such things up? Sure, but doing so would indicate a pretty unreasonable level of enmity towards the new starting QB, would it not? That's why I mentioned it.

I'm also not sure where I said Majik wasn't a fan favorite - I've stated explicitly twice now that I do remember a very negative reaction to Favre replacing him. As you say, a person would have to not be paying attention to have missed it, and I did not - I remember the whole thing quite clearly.

I do disagree that Favre had it worse than Rodgers - I don't believe he did, and that's the last comment I'll make on the matter.
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TheEngineer
16 years ago

Favre didn't even know what a Cover 2 was when he started. Or some defensive scheme, I can't recall which one he said.

The two situations are different, way different, yes.

"SlickVision" wrote:



I believe it was the nickel back.
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zombieslayer
16 years ago

Majik was a fan favorite. I don't know how anyone can deny it. Either you weren't paying attention or you did not live in Green Bay or close to it, because he was a huge fan favorite and when he went down. Fans lost hope, the little we had.

The comment about Rodgers whining behind the scenes, no. We can start another one if you'd like. Charles Woodson secretly whined behind the scenes that he wanted Brett out because he couldn't play in the cold anymore. See how easy that is? Now you can go to another website and say you heard Woodson whined about wanting Favre out behind the scenes. lol.

The switch from Majik to Favre, no where near the switch from Favre to Rodgers. What made it worse for Rodgers was Favre unretiring and then going public with everything he could think of.

The media was not too relevant during '92 as it was in '08. When everything you say and do is recorded, printed, YouTube'd, blogged, etc, it makes it helluva lot harder.


Rodgers has a harder path than Favre when it comes to a media standpoint. When it comes to football, Rodgers had a better situation than Favre. Favre didn't even know what a Cover 2 was when he started. Or some defensive scheme, I can't recall which one he said.

The two situations are different, way different, yes.

"SlickVision" wrote:



Another reason they're apples and oranges...

Packer fans were like Lions fans those days. We were so used to losing. For example, I became a fan in 1976. We were 4-10 that year if I'm not mistaken. We'd go 4-10, 5-9, 4-10, then maybe throw and 8-8 in there, then 6-10. I don't remember the order, but I do remember we'd always suck.

1982, we go 5-3-1 and actually win a Playoff game. Packer fans go wild and everyone loves Lynn Dickey. But then our D is ranked last and the next year, we go 8-8, then Dickey gets hurt and we're stuck with David Whitehurst and a slew of other people I'm trying to forget their names.

Suddenly Majik comes along and in 1989, we're 10-6. Packer fans go wild again. A winning record. Wow! That's just insane! Great days to be a Packers fan.

So everyone loves Majik because of one winning season. But then he gets hurt and plays hurt so we love him despite him being a shell of what he was. He did give us 1989.

In the early 90s, he goes down and this Brett Favre (who?) comes in. At first, we're all bummed. Who's this punk? Brett Favre? Why doesn't he spell it Brett "Farve" so we can pronounce it right?

But as much as the fans cry for Majik to come back, we're suddenly winning again and Favre quickly wins us over. Then for the all these years, we have non-losing seasons (except 2005, but everyone and their Grandma was injured).

Packer fans become spoiled. Winning becomes all we know, especially for the ones who are too young to remember the non-Favre years.

This is what Aaron inherits, and this is what Aaron has to overcome. Let's just say it was a lot easier for Favre, because all he had to do was give us a winning season. Aaron now has to give us a SB win.
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago

Favre didn't even know what a Cover 2 was when he started. Or some defensive scheme, I can't recall which one he said.

The two situations are different, way different, yes.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



I believe it was the nickel back.

"SlickVision" wrote:

I think you are right. That sounds right.
UserPostedImage
16 years ago
Yeah the conversation went something like:

Favre: Hey Ty, can I ask you a question?
Detmer: Sure what is it Brett?
Favre: What do they mean when they say "nickel defense is in."
Detmer: .... You're kidding right?
Favre: No I'm not, just tell me.
Detmer: It means they sub out a linebacker and put in a defensive back.
Favre: Hell, that's it???
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Pack93z
16 years ago
People can bang on Favre all they want.. "hayseed".. whatever they want to call him.

But the man could sling the rock and could read a defense before the snap as well as anyone.. he just had too much confidence in his ability to beat the opposition every time..

Favre not knowing what a nickel back was.. or whatever the story his, falls on his college coaching staff.. no way he should have made it to the pros and not know something to that nature.. high school maybe.. college never.
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DarkaneRules
16 years ago
That Nickelback bit... if anything... only makes Favre more awesome. Brett Favre was Mr. Intangible.
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago
Anyhow, with all this Favre talk. I'm happy with Aaron Rodgers '09 season. I'd like more stats about him in creative manner. Even if it's making him look bad, or good.

Or compare his first full season stats with other QB's.

This is a good thread about Aaron Rodgers. I think...
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longtimefan
16 years ago
!st time staritng 16 games or close to that


Jake Delhomme....3219 yards 19 tds to 16 ints and the panthers were 11-5

Drew Brees... 3284 yards 17 tds 16 ints charges were 4-12

Mcnabb. .. 3365 yards 23 tds and 13 ints, philly was 12-4

Kerry Collins ...2717 yards 14 tds and 19 ints, panthers 7-9
Cheesey
16 years ago

Majik was a fan favorite. I don't know how anyone can deny it. Either you weren't paying attention or you did not live in Green Bay or close to it, because he was a huge fan favorite and when he went down. Fans lost hope, the little we had.

The comment about Rodgers whining behind the scenes, no. We can start another one if you'd like. Charles Woodson secretly whined behind the scenes that he wanted Brett out because he couldn't play in the cold anymore. See how easy that is? Now you can go to another website and say you heard Woodson whined about wanting Favre out behind the scenes. lol.

The switch from Majik to Favre, no where near the switch from Favre to Rodgers. What made it worse for Rodgers was Favre unretiring and then going public with everything he could think of.

The media was not too relevant during '92 as it was in '08. When everything you say and do is recorded, printed, YouTube'd, blogged, etc, it makes it helluva lot harder.


Rodgers has a harder path than Favre when it comes to a media standpoint. When it comes to football, Rodgers had a better situation than Favre. Favre didn't even know what a Cover 2 was when he started. Or some defensive scheme, I can't recall which one he said.

The two situations are different, way different, yes.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Another reason they're apples and oranges...

Packer fans were like Lions fans those days. We were so used to losing. For example, I became a fan in 1976. We were 4-10 that year if I'm not mistaken. We'd go 4-10, 5-9, 4-10, then maybe throw and 8-8 in there, then 6-10. I don't remember the order, but I do remember we'd always suck.

1982, we go 5-3-1 and actually win a Playoff game. Packer fans go wild and everyone loves Lynn Dickey. But then our D is ranked last and the next year, we go 8-8, then Dickey gets hurt and we're stuck with David Whitehurst and a slew of other people I'm trying to forget their names.

Suddenly Majik comes along and in 1989, we're 10-6. Packer fans go wild again. A winning record. Wow! That's just insane! Great days to be a Packers fan.

So everyone loves Majik because of one winning season. But then he gets hurt and plays hurt so we love him despite him being a shell of what he was. He did give us 1989.

In the early 90s, he goes down and this Brett Favre (who?) comes in. At first, we're all bummed. Who's this punk? Brett Favre? Why doesn't he spell it Brett "Farve" so we can pronounce it right?

But as much as the fans cry for Majik to come back, we're suddenly winning again and Favre quickly wins us over. Then for the all these years, we have non-losing seasons (except 2005, but everyone and their Grandma was injured).

Packer fans become spoiled. Winning becomes all we know, especially for the ones who are too young to remember the non-Favre years.

This is what Aaron inherits, and this is what Aaron has to overcome. Let's just say it was a lot easier for Favre, because all he had to do was give us a winning season. Aaron now has to give us a SB win.

"SlickVision" wrote:


One of the BEST descriptions of this situation that i have ever read! +1!

I think thats whay all the "Rodgers haters" are here. They know NOTHING of what it was like pre-Favre. Favre was ALL they know.
I remember the 70's and 80's........(I WISH i could forget) and how THRILLED i was when the "Majik" season of 1989. What STILL bugs me is that we didn't even make the playoffs that year. I really think we could have "won it all" that year. Everything seemed to bounce our way.
Then just a few years later, there we were, beating the Lions in a playoff game in Detroit. Just being in the PLAYOFFS was like winning the super bowl to me. Anything after that was GRAVY! Favre won us over with making the playoffs so many times. The sad part is, only one SB win in all those years. Heck, Ben Rothlishamburglar has TWO already.
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