nerdmann
5 years ago

You mean the way Murphy and Gute think it will?

Listen, it has been time for McCarthy to go for years now. The only surprises here are that it didn't happen MUCH sooner and that it happened mid-season. Otherwise, this has been a long time coming. It was time to move on. It just should have happened sooner, or at the latest, this past off season. That's on Murphy.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



True, but IMHO Mike's greatest failure is his inability to understand sports psychology, and letting Aaron get out of control. And that's what we need to deal with now. [twocents]
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DoddPower
5 years ago

True, but IMHO Mike's greatest failure is his inability to understand sports psychology, and letting Aaron get out of control. And that's what we need to deal with now. [twocents]

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Perhaps, but that's on McCarthy for not controlling or helping Rodgers through that process. Since he obviously wasn't up to the task, then the Packers needed to move on. Like I said, the main issue is that it didn't happen sooner. Murphy screwed up. I don't have a lot of faith in Murphy. Early returns are not positive, imo.
Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago

Early returns are not positive, imo.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



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musccy
5 years ago

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Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Maybe Rodgers should hit a "stupid fucking WR in the flat or in stride."

He got his money and his coach fired. Excuses are gone and it's time to STFU and perform Burt II.
steveishere
5 years ago

True, but IMHO Mike's greatest failure is his inability to understand sports psychology, and letting Aaron get out of control. And that's what we need to deal with now. [twocents]

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



McCarthy didn't just lose Rodgers, the whole team played like undisciplined shit all year. Blame Rodgers all you want but that's on the Head Coach. His only job isn't to reign in Rodgers it's to coach the entire team and that's where he failed most of all. When it comes down to it not being able to find a decent ST coach probably had as much impact on him losing his job as anything Rodgers did.

Also the bad situtational in-game decisions and sometimes ridiculous level of conservative calls offensively aren't on Rodgers either and that's a huge part of the Head Coaches job. Continuing to coach not to lose even after you start losing because of it is the most Mike McCarthy thing I can think of.
nerdmann
5 years ago

McCarthy didn't just lose Rodgers, the whole team played like undisciplined shit all year. Blame Rodgers all you want but that's on the Head Coach. His only job isn't to reign in Rodgers it's to coach the entire team and that's where he failed most of all. When it comes down to it not being able to find a decent ST coach probably had as much impact on him losing his job as anything Rodgers did.

Also the bad situtational in-game decisions and sometimes ridiculous level of conservative calls offensively aren't on Rodgers either and that's a huge part of the Head Coaches job. Continuing to coach not to lose even after you start losing because of it is the most Mike McCarthy thing I can think of.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I look at it as Aaron turning the team against him. Again, that's Mike's own fault. That's not in question. What's in question is the solution.

Do we give Aaron control or do we reign him in? I say reign him in.
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musccy
5 years ago

I look at it as Aaron turning the team against him. Again, that's Mike's own fault. That's not in question. What's in question is the solution.

Do we give Aaron control or do we reign him in? I say reign him in.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Reign him in. No player is above the organization. As Murphy and Gute said last night, he's paid to be QB, that's all he should be focusing on.

TheKanataThrilla
5 years ago
I am curious as to what will happen next pre-season. Will Aaron not play in these "meaningless" games and again come out of the gate with no Chemistry with his receivers? With a new coach and likely new OC I would hope that we do take some of that pre-season time to work on getting the players in sync which has been lacking to start the last few seasons.
Zero2Cool
5 years ago

I am curious as to what will happen next pre-season. Will Aaron not play in these "meaningless" games and again come out of the gate with no Chemistry with his receivers? With a new coach and likely new OC I would hope that we do take some of that pre-season time to work on getting the players in sync which has been lacking to start the last few seasons.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Chiefs starters didn't play hardly at all in pre-season and their 2nd year QB doesn't seem to have good chemistry.
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buckeyepackfan
5 years ago
Preseason games are for rookies and udfa's and other young guys trying to make the team.

Too much money involved to risk playing veterans in preseason.

Ota's , mini camps, and preseason practice is where the chemistry is developed.

I expect Aaron to light Atlanta up Sunday, he is going to have to if Matty Ice shows up.
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