nerdmann
6 years ago

Who has the Packers defense rated high?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I didn't see miscommunications. I saw 7th string guys and street free agents getting beat repeatedly by a half a step.

Problem with the D is injuries. They got beat fair and square, but I felt like they played lights out.

The defense is not what embarrassed me.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
Did Mike go rougue and fumble the ball on a kickoff return?

Did Mike fumble the ball when driving for the go ahead TD?

Did Mike call the senseless roughing the passer penalty week 2, which is now not roughing the passer?

Lastly, did Mike start missing wide open receivers?

That's 4 examples, there's plenty more.

Mike should have been gone after last year.

Why the hell is everyone so upset with Mike?

Mike has No control over the players he is given to coach.

What the hell did everuone expect last night?

4th road game in 5 weeks against top notch competition.

12 rookies were active last night.

New GM, new OC, new DC, new QB coach.

Hell Ted was 6-10 his 1st year.

Mark Murphy screwed the pooch by not fully cleaning house.

Not real impressed with the new GM's moves before and during the season.

The new DC is finding out what Capers knew for years.
You can sheme The Greatest defenses in the world to mo avail, when you have to play 4th and 5th string players.

I'll go back to the before the beginning of the season.
EXPECTATIONS!

Why be upset with Mike when he is only doing what he has done in the past?

Roll with the punches.

Quit acting like the clowns on FB.

You all are better than that.



I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Porforis
6 years ago

Mike has No control over the players he is given to coach.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I can pretty much respond to your whole comment with the following:

coach
verb
train or instruct (a team or player).
"he has coached the Edmeston Panthers for six years"



If you have no control over the players you are training or instructing then you are failing at the most basic definition of being a coach. Yes, players are responsible for their own individual performance. The head coach is responsible for making sure they're held accountable for that, as well as instructing players and the team on how to avoid those issues in the future.

Issues with a team's focus (key in boneheaded penalties or giveaways, several of which you brought up) absolutely are partially the head coach's responsibility. If those problems don't go away, that's a coaching issue as well as an individual talent issue. Good coaches consistently put their players in a position to win and are able to get the best out of their players. Bad coaches hurt their team's chances of winning and build an environment where under-performing is not only common, it's permissible.
Zero2Cool
6 years ago
I called in today, I called in not sick, but embarrassed. They said it was absurd to be embarrassed, I said, but, I'm a FAN! I am embarrassed by what the Packers did last night and the previous week!! All I got was "Kevin, get your ass to work".

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Cheesey
6 years ago

All I got was "Kevin, get your ass to work".

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



So Kevin hopped on his donkey, and rode in to work.😂
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Cheesey
6 years ago
After this last game, the Packers will be staying at one of those “pay by the hour” hotels that are used by “ladies of the evening “.😂
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

I can pretty much respond to your whole comment with the following:



If you have no control over the players you are training or instructing then you are failing at the most basic definition of being a coach. Yes, players are responsible for their own individual performance. The head coach is responsible for making sure they're held accountable for that, as well as instructing players and the team on how to avoid those issues in the future.

Issues with a team's focus (key in boneheaded penalties or giveaways, several of which you brought up) absolutely are partially the head coach's responsibility. If those problems don't go away, that's a coaching issue as well as an individual talent issue. Good coaches consistently put their players in a position to win and are able to get the best out of their players. Bad coaches hurt their team's chances of winning and build an environment where under-performing is not only common, it's permissible.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



This is what I meant.
The GM makes the final decisions on who is drafted. Who is signed.
Not Mike McCarthy!

He can only work with the players given to him.
IMHO Guttekunst did not make very good moves this year.
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
nerdmann
6 years ago

This is what I meant.
The GM makes the final decisions on who is drafted. Who is signed.
Not Mike McCarthy!

He can only work with the players given to him.
IMHO Guttekunst did not make very good moves this year.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



With these players, would could easily be undefeated. Hell, with no mistakes on ST, we're 8-2.

With a QB who can hit the broad side of a barn, we breeze into the playoffs.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

I can pretty much respond to your whole comment with the following:



If you have no control over the players you are training or instructing then you are failing at the most basic definition of being a coach. Yes, players are responsible for their own individual performance. The head coach is responsible for making sure they're held accountable for that, as well as instructing players and the team on how to avoid those issues in the future.

Issues with a team's focus (key in boneheaded penalties or giveaways, several of which you brought up) absolutely are partially the head coach's responsibility. If those problems don't go away, that's a coaching issue as well as an individual talent issue. Good coaches consistently put their players in a position to win and are able to get the best out of their players. Bad coaches hurt their team's chances of winning and build an environment where under-performing is not only common, it's permissible.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Let me say it again.

Mark Murphy screwed the pooch by not cleaning house LAST YEAR!

He did a half assed job, now everyone is blaming Mike McCarthy!

Now the members here are bitching about the results and putting all the blame on McCarthy.

Why?

He should have been gone after last year!
Let me say it again
He should have been gone last year!

Mark Murphy is responsible for this year!

I don't expect much better results until he is replaced.
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
DoddPower
6 years ago

Let me say it again.

Mark Murphy screwed the pooch by not cleaning house LAST YEAR!

He did a half assed job, now everyone is blaming Mike McCarthy!

Now the members here are bitching about the results and putting all the blame on McCarthy.

Why?

He should have been gone after last year!
Let me say it again
He should have been gone last year!

Mark Murphy is responsible for this year!

I font expect much better results until he is replaced.


Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



There's validity to your thesis. We can blame McCarthy, but he is what he is. We should accept that. At this point, the blame has to be placed at the top for making half-assed moves and not moving on several years ago, or at the very least, last off season. Half-ass changes result in half-ass results. McCarthy is no longer the best person for the Packers, but I don't blame him for not quitting. I blame his leadership for not making the tough decisions to clean house and hit the reset button.
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