Did anyone else hear the pregame show when they talked about playing defense against the Packers? It was something like this offense is so easy to defense because it's the same offense they been running since 1995 with Brett Favre. Now when former player/ analyst can see this i am sure a DC can really see it.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 

Besides Matt Flynn (who went on to do not much of anything elsewhere), how has that worked out for the Packers? Kizer, Hundley, Callahan, Harrell, Nall, Tolzien, Wallance, Young, and whoever else I've forgotten have been at best not bad enough to single-handedly lose the game and at worse completely put the Packers out of any contention to be competitive. This is less of a "Rodgers is a God!" comment and more of a "Next man up sounds like a pretty horrible idea to me and history backs that up".

Originally Posted by: Porforis 

Because Rodgers is playing so well right now?

Face it, Kizer was a higher selection than any of those other guys for a reason. And nothing will help him more than to get some freakin live reps.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

You cannot let your team leader defy the coach. That's how you get guys going rogue like Ty Montgomery.

That's how you get guys looking right at your coach and ignoring him, walking away.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

If typing that out doesn't make you realize how ludicrous that sounds then I'm not sure anybody can help you. Compared to what his raw talent says he should be capable? Yes Rodgers is bombing this season. He's middle of the pack overall. You mean to tell me that Brett freaking Kizer is a top-15 QB if he gets the reps? Yeah, maybe if the entire offensive system is re-tooled around him and you have a year or two. You seriously think you're going to get that out of McCarthy?

Some claimed Hundley was a MVP in waiting and just needed reps. How'd that work out when he got the reps? But let me guess, that was Rodgers' fault because he what, wouldn't help him? Wasn't that Brett's whole deal? Several of Brett's backups managed to have pretty good careers.



Not going to continue going back and forth on this argument. You're clearly convinced this is gospel.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 

4-6-1 is 4-6-1. If you're good with that, stand pat.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

This offense reminds me of “horse and buggy”. When everyone was driving a horse and buggy, ours was one of the fastest. But the automobile was invented, and everyone (except us) started driving cars, and passing us by. Mike McCarthy refuses to drive a car, and thus our team is getting RUN OVER.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

OMG, I didn't know McCathy was Amish.
Had I knew that I would have a better understanding of things.
Unlike McCarthy the Amish are highly productive people>😁 .

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 

Defense sucks way overrated. An upgrade over Capers most definitely but not enough! They still can't shut offenses off!

Originally Posted by: shield4life 

This is what I meant.
The GM makes the final decisions on who is drafted. Who is signed.
Not Mike McCarthy!

He can only work with the players given to him.
IMHO Guttekunst did not make very good moves this year.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan