TEACHER! Leave Our Kids Alone!

Barfarn
Senior Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Did you know, of the 23 northern states that made up the North in 1860, as of 1830 only ONE [Vermont] never had a slave counted on their Census? And according to the Census, when the Civil war broke out, more than 450K slaves resided in the North across 9 states. And since all but 4 states had laws on the books outlawing slavery, you can bet these numbers were undercounted.

Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation only outlawed slavery in Confederate States. He signed a law that outlawed slavery ONLY in areas where the Proclamation had no legal effect. Maybe Abe didn't free the slaves...Just shows history is written by the winners.

Much of what we were taught up thru High School about our history is cherry-picked and/or outright dishonest. Take time to listen to some of George Carlin’s very entertaining routines on school; read anything you can by Zinn or his disciples; and for god sake challenge everything you think you know.

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Smokey
Veteran Member

6 years ago

The winners/ruling party write the "approved" history. Always have.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

Yup....like teaching children that everything evolved from a rock, “millions of years ago”, even though there is nothing proving that.
Oh, they SAY there is, but none of their proof stands up against scrutiny.

Lincoln died because he was against slavery. John Wilkes Booth understood that.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

6 years ago

Yup....like teaching children that everything evolved from a rock, “millions of years ago”, even though there is nothing proving that.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

I guess it's a good thing that no one is teaching that then.

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

The slaves that were in the North were there because their Southern masters brought them into the North not Northerners having slaves. (I am sure there were a few people who owned slaves but for the vast majority it was slaves who were brought into the North.) There were about a dozen Federal laws that required the North to accept the legality of slavery inside their borders. The Southern Revision - Lost Cause began to rewrite the narrative in the 1880s and proclaim the war was for States Rights. They meant Southern Rights. They blocked every attempt at Northern States passing any kind of state laws that hindered slavery.

One example is the the fugitive slave law.
It's Wiki but it is fairly accurate.

The Fugitive Slave Law or Fugitive Slave Act was passed by the United States Congress on September 18, 1850[1], as part of the Compromise of 1850 between Southern slave-holding interests and Northern Free-Soilers.

The Act was one of the most controversial elements of the 1850 compromise and heightened Northern fears of a "slave power conspiracy". It required that all escaped slaves, upon capture, be returned to their masters and that officials and citizens of free states had to cooperate. Abolitionists nicknamed it the "Bloodhound Law" for the dogs that were used to track down runaway slaves.[2]

If you understood anything about law you would know Lincoln didn't have the authority to abolish slavery on his own. He knew that he was out on a limb doing what he did under the guise of it being for military necessity. Because he claimed it was needed for military reasons the proclamation could only apply to the areas of the nation that were still in rebellion.

Lincoln was a smart lawyer and knew the courts would throw out his proclamation as being unconstitutional that's why he pushed so hard for Congress to pass the 13th Amendment.

But you are pretty sharp Barny, I assume you know this and are merely looking for an argument.

I will decline thank you very much.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

I guess it's a good thing that no one is teaching that then.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

That IS what they are teaching. It rained on the rocks, it made a “soup”, and life just magically appeared out of it. Then the life just decided to grow arms and legs and lungs, and walked out of the water. Then some of the “things” grew wings and flew away.

That is the reality of what they are teaching.
It’s all science fiction.
If you actually look at what they are teaching, you would realize it’s all a fairy tale that has to be believed on blind faith.
Of course they put a lot of fancy words, and a lot of time, and ANYTHING can happen. (Oh....everything but intelligent design of course).

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

I have a daughter who has graduated high school, two more that are currently in high school and one in kindergarten. This is absolutely NOT being taught.

Religious folks don't want their religion mocked, but yet they are free to mock the theory of evolution? I urge you to actually research evolution, the big bang theory and such matters with an open mind. It will not change your mind, but you'll see how ridiculous your mockery is.

Evolution is no more or less non-fiction than the Bible. We are all free to believe what we want. Let's not mock what we don't understand or know.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

I have studied the “Big Bang” and evolution. I was taught both of those in public schools.
And to narrow down evolution, that is what they teach.
Life started from nothing. Then over “millions of years” evolved into all the different plants, animals, birds, fish and so on. Please tell me where I am wrong about this. They use fancy talk, but I just narrow it down to what it’s really teaching.
If you have an open mind, then you could see that it is what they are actually teaching kids. But because it comes from a “scientist “ it makes it sound valid.
Man, with all his knowledge still can’t produce life from non living materials.
Yet that is what the Big Bang theory and evolution teach.
And they are not taught as a theory, they are taught as FACT in school.
If you don’t agree with it, you are ridiculed and treated like you are stupid. I know from experience.
They don’t teach that there are ANY other possibilities. It’s evolution or you are an idiot.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

6 years ago

I personally like the alien theory. Life on our planet only started when aliens showed up and we are all actually aliens. Cave men drew pictures of alien space shops in the sky. That's enough proof for me. Also, the pyramids...obviously. When is school going to bring this into the curriculum?

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

6 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

I've been watching lot of videos on the Anunnaki. It seems somewhat plausible at some spots, but also straight out of a movie in most other spots.

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