Bigbyfan
6 years ago
I wouldn't want to trade at least one 1st round pick to give out the richest RB contract ever. Especially to a RB who touches the ball almost 400 times a year...

There's a reason the Steelers don't want to sign him to that contract and prefer to keep giving him the tag. They understand they run him into the ground every year. Whenever it happens that Bell starts declining, its gonna happen fast.

Why do you think Bell is pushing so hard for a long time deal and is prepared to sit out til week 10?
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Dulak
6 years ago
IMO we dont need Bell, Ty is much better then him. If only we would use him correctly. Not a power back; but a scat back or wideout. Stick both williams and Ty out on the field and let the D try to figure out whom the ball is going too.

Oh remember that play in the bears game that got called back that Ty did ...

He is still one of my favorite players - just wish we would use him right.
sschind
6 years ago

No way. Not for that money and the picks we'd have to give up and not with our O-Line. Especially with multiple credible run options. Bell will be an upgrade but his talents will be wasted with our line and the way the playcalling's gone so far in this extremely brief season. It'll get better.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Is there an echo in here? I could swear I just heard that not too long ago? Maybe it was for some other player.

sschind
6 years ago

IMO we dont need Bell, Ty is much better then him. If only we would use him correctly. Not a power back; but a scat back or wideout. Stick both williams and Ty out on the field and let the D try to figure out whom the ball is going too.

Oh remember that play in the bears game that got called back that Ty did ...

He is still one of my favorite players - just wish we would use him right.

Originally Posted by: Dulak 



We don"t need Bell _ I agree we don't need him.

Ty is much better then him- I rarely use the "f" word but in this case you are Fucking crazy.

I like Monty as well but to think he is better than Bell you must be smokin some good shit.
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6 years ago

Is there an echo in here? I could swear I just heard that not too long ago? Maybe it was for some other player.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



There is a reason why teams don't want to pony up huge dollars for long term deals with players who are not franchise quality qbs. It's not a very good investment.

The player may well be great. He might even get HoF consideration. But that doesn't mean they should break the bank on him.

The additional wins he earns the club are minimal. Mack played lights out in the first half. (It might be argued he would do the same in the 2nd half in a few weeks. Maybe so maybe not.) Regardless how well he played the bares still lost. It gets the fans, media and even his teammates excited but in the end he was no more effective than Sam Acho or Bilal Nichols when it comes to getting the W.

Likewise Bell will get some team a few wins but 2,3 even 4 more wins for certain teams (I am not implying he would bring 4 wins to a team like GB. At most 1 or 2 for them.) it will probably not make much difference in the playoff run. A team that would sneak into the playoffs because of him would be outed in the first couple of rounds. Teams that would make it further probably don't need a high priced RB to begin with. In the long run every team would regret not having the draft picks to restock their team with less expensive options.
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Cheesey
6 years ago
Well thought out WPR.
The more opinions I read here , the more I agree that it would be dumb to try to get him. It made me think a lot.

I think when Aaron Jones comes back, with Williams backing him up, our run game will do enough to keep the opposing D honest.
Of course none of that matters if AR can’t play.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

No way. Not for that money and the picks we'd have to give up and not with our O-Line. Especially with multiple credible run options. Bell will be an upgrade but his talents will be wasted with our line and the way the playcalling's gone so far in this extremely brief season. It'll get better.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Steelers might trade him outside AFC for less than inside AFC. Bell might accept a lower contract with a legit Super Bowl contender (I know, laugh, Steelers are just that) with an elite QB.

Would I want Leveon Bell? No, because we have Aaron Rodgers. All we need for our offense to be at its best is a RB who can do these few things.

A, pass protection
B, never fumble
C, consistently get 3 yards every carry
D, at least a threat to receive the ball out of backfield

We do not need Barry Sanders or Walter Payton for our offense to be best in the NFL. Our offense is at its best when Rodgers is being Rodgers.

The only deal I would do for Bell is the following.
Packers trade 1st rounder plus Clay Matthews.
Steelers trade Leveon Bell plus TJ Watt

And I would let Bell walk after his franchise tag is up.
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gbguy20
6 years ago

Well thought out WPR.
The more opinions I read here , the more I agree that it would be dumb to try to get him. It made me think a lot.

I think when Aaron Jones comes back, with Williams backing him up, our run game will do enough to keep the opposing D honest.
Of course none of that matters if Aaron Rodgers can’t play.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Unfortunately, no matter how well Aaron Jones plays he will be the backup. Not Williams, because Mike absolutely hates Fast/Talented RBs. Also one of many reasons we won't trade for Bell.
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