One thing’s for sure, if they were gonna make a play for Khalil Mack, they’d have to free up some cap space.

Personally, I’d stand pat, keep both firsts for next year. Get a coule blue chip pass rushers in a draft that will be deep in that position, have them for a decade.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Salary Cap Available
2018 : $11,210,535
2019 : $38,054,777
2020 : $96,955,833

Sign Khahil Mack to a 3 year $29 million contract that is fully guaranteed.
$7 million, $10 million and $12 million.

Of course, not the best example, but it wouldn't be hard to use that guaranteed cash to really push someone over the top of signing or a signing bonus that is spread out over the duration of the contract.

As Andrew Brandt says, if there is a desire to sign someone, the team can find a way to make it happen.

I would say throw a 1st round pick plus Clay Matthews and a 3rd rounder for 2020 Draft that can go up to 2nd round at the Raiders for Mack. That'll free up ~$10 million of 2018 cap, and it's an upgrade at the position. Win-Win.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

If we could get Mack for a first and a third and Matthews AND get him to sign for 29 million over three years I'd say its a no brainer. The trade might be acceptable but I think Mack would laugh at that offer. Laugh loudly and for a very long time. Miller got 70 million guaranteed I doubt Mack would settle for 29 unless you are planning on adding a big signing bonus to that amount. He is scheduled to make 13 million this year and he is holding out I don't see him signing for the next 3 years for less than that.

Second those 2019 and 2020 numbers will likely go down after we sign all our FAs or their replacements. those numbers represent the players under contract for those years we will undoubtedly need to add a few more to get up to our full roster compliment. On top of that with the numbers I expect Rodgers to get I don't really see his new deal offering much in the way of first year cap relief (as some restructures do) unless it hits the back end very hard and I don't like that idea.

You can certainly make it happen but that does not mean its a smart move.

Originally Posted by: sschind 

Von Miller just got himself a ring months prior to getting that contract.
Khahil Mack does not have a ring.

I'm banking on Mack wanting a ring more than cashing in. He knows Aaron Rodgers gives you that chance. Even Jon Gruden is quoted to say 'We weren’t very good last year, on defense, with Khalil Mack.'.

Back to Miller's contract, he's scheduled to have cap hits of $25 million in 2019 and 2020 and another $22 million in 2021. Base salary is just ~$17 million each of those years. And there's an out in 2020 for the Broncos. Essentially making it a four year contract. I'm saying three year deal (and I even said the $29 million wasn't best example so back off [boxing] 😝 ) FULLY guaranteed with a legitimate Super Bowl contending team.

He gets one or two super bowl rings, then around 30 years old some team (e.g. Browns) sign him for some crazy $100 million after the 2020 season (remember, CBA expires after 2020 season).

What I'm getting at here is the allure of winning a ring, plus the FUTURE salary cap available of the Packers plus having that second 1st round pick in 2019 gives the Packers a lot of ammunition that with the right pitch to Mack and creative configuration of salary would not be as difficult as some are saying.

Back to Gruden's comment ... maybe Mack is playing hard ball in spite of Gruden and would take less with the Packers than he would with Raiders?

Every NFL player's dream is to win the super bowl. Mack won't be getting there with Raiders. He could be what puts the Packers over the top. The Packers can/should take some of a risky deal (saying go kinda crazy) because I highly doubt we'll continue our fortunate of Favre to Rodgers to ...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Sir I respectfully disagree. There are many professional players in all sports that care more about the paycheck than awards including championships. I won't look into their hearts and minds and tell you it is 10% or 40% but there are many who would not be there if there wasn't the chance of the huge payday. It's a generalization and to take it one step further I suspect that the larger number of these men are younger and thus are still in their rookie contracts. They know they may only get one chance at the big contract and they don't want to miss out. They will work hard and get through the first 4 or 5 years and then cash in. Once they have that under their belt they can then look around for other things like championships.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

Before I attack you viciously over the interwebz like a true keyboard warrior, what specifically are you disagreeing with? (before the police get phoned, I know Wayne personally and he knows I'm being facetious, so relax your titties)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I'm banking on Mack wanting a ring more than cashing in. He knows Aaron Rodgers gives you that chance.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Every NFL player's dream is to win the super bowl.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

What a dog you are Z. I hate it when you try and pen me down and make me work this hard.
😠

In part this line:


More specifically this:


Is this clear enough for you or do I need to 'splain it to you Lucy? 🤤

Originally Posted by: wpr