Zero2Cool
6 years ago
What are your thoughts on this?

Crucial veteran additions: TE Jimmy Graham, QB DeShone Kizer, DT Muhammad Wilkerson, DB Tramon Williams, TE Marcedes Lewis

Crucial veteran losses: WR Jordy Nelson, S Morgan Burnett, LB Joe Thomas

What improved?
Tight ends. Last season, Martellus Bennett was brought in to replace Jared Cook—who departed for Oakland in the 2017 free agency—as the athletic, pass-catching tight end in Mike McCarthy’s offense, but played just seven games last season before ultimately retiring. Green Bay signed two veterans, Jimmy Graham, who will be that athletic, No. 1 tight end; and Marcedes Lewis, who is a great blocking tight end.

What needs work?
Green Bay signaled their most important area for improvement in their top two draft picks—cornerback Jaire Alexander in the first round and cornerback Josh Jackson in the second. By drafting two highly-touted cornerback prospects, there’s a better chance that one of them will pan out. Green Bay also signed veterans Tramon Williams and Davon House to round out the depth in the secondary. This is an area the Packers have to get right if they want to maximize Aaron Rodgers’s championship window.

What can we expect?
A healthy Aaron Rodgers with a new weapon in Jimmy Graham should lead the Packers return to their usual playoff berth.

Fact/tidbit/piece of news learned from OTAs/minicamps
Last season, running back Ty Montgomery played just eight games and was placed on injured reserve after struggling with rib and wrist injuries. In his absence, rookie running backs Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams emerged as viable options, so much that by the end of the season, it looked like Montgomery could be phased out of the Packers plans on offense. Per offseason practice reports, Montgomery was frequently used in no-huddle and two-minute drills, and head coach Mike McCarthy told ESPN’s Rob Demovsky that he plans to handle running back by committee this season, until someone proves themselves to be the full-time guy. That could still be Montgomery.


GRADE: B

If the additions to the secondary pan out, this Green Bay defense will be able to support Rodgers’s dominance.

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yooperfan
6 years ago

head coach Mike McCarthy told ESPN's Rob Demovsky that he plans to handle running back by committee this season, until someone proves themselves to be the full-time guy. That could still be Montgomery.

Originally Posted by: Kalyn Kahler  


I sincerely doubt Montgomery will ever be a full time running back, for anyone!
Cheesey
6 years ago
I agree, Yooper! But if he is used right, he could be a great addition with AR as QB.

The problem I have with RBs by committee is, if you don’t mix it up to throw off the D, as in “Montgomery is in, so they are going to pass”, they will stack the D for that kind of play.
So you have to run sometimes in that formation to keep them honest. Or throw a screen to Monty.
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nerdmann
6 years ago
Montgomery has to be the #3 (actually #2) WR. His function as an RB is primarily to diagnose coverages.

This is why Goot hasn’t made an offer to Dez or any of these other guys. We’re covered there.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nerdmann
6 years ago
Ty would make a great third down back, but can he pass protect?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
6 years ago

Ty would make a great third down back, but can he pass protect?

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He was up and down the last two years if I recall correctly. I believe in 2016 He was rated fairly high given his mid season switch, but I think he lost some playing time last year prior to injuries because he wasn't quite getting it done in Pass pro.
wpr
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6 years ago
I can see GB grading out as a B for their off season moves. That is of course contingent on most of the moves working out. It drops to a C if only half of them do.
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6 years ago

What are your thoughts on this?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Ok I see other members thoughts but I don't see yours.
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Cheesey
6 years ago
I see the off season as a positive, if, as WPR says, they pan out.
Of course any move can make you look smart, or blow up in your face!
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Zero2Cool (11h) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (14h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (14h) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (16h) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (16h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (16h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (16h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (16h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (16h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (16h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (16h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (16h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (16h) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (16h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (16h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (17h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (18h) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (18h) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (18h) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
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