McCarthy: DeShone Kizer would be a first-round pick in this year's draft· Page 2

warhawk
Senior Member

7 years ago

I found this to be a curious pick by Cleveland in the first place. His own college coach said he wasn't ready and Kizer himself did not dispute that. Cleveland ended up starting him anyway. Imagine that. A lousy team grasping at straws in desperation at the expense of the player.

How about giving him a chance to learn the game. I'm not going to judge someone that was put in a near impossible place to succeed and say from that he will never be able to have success when his biggest mistake was coming out when he did.

"The train is leaving the station."

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

#12

About Kizer, I agree that he landed with a very poor team. He deserves a fair chance to prove his worth with the Packers.

Many QBs have struggled in their 1st season as Starters. Names like Manning and Luck and others come to mind. Hundley too did not have All Pro numbers in his debut as a starter, but week to week as he filled in for Rodgers, I saw steady improvement as game plans were crafted more in line with Hundley's strengths rather than Rodgers'.

Both Kizer and Hundley have had their baptisms as NFL starters. Hundley will start off this year with a better handle on GB's system as Kizer will have much to learn. That said, I believe that both QBs will compete in a spirited competition to be GB's #2 QB. [smile]

Originally Posted by: Smokey

That’s one thing I did NOT see with Hundley, steady improvement.

I do believe Kizer can be the man. Mike needs to prove himself, though. Aaron learned, because he was smart, and he had that chip on his shoulder. Bert Favor gave Aaron all the motivation he needed.

The rap on Kizer is that he is a “millenial,” in the pejorative sense. He’s got the skills, the smarts, can make all the throws. But is he more interested in putting in the hard work or in enjoying the limelight?

Both Mike and DeShone have something to prove. But the potential is definitely there, imo.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Smokey
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: warhawk

We don't yet know if Kizer really did make a mistake. Fate has landed him in GB, this could be a blessing in disguise. Just think he could have ended up in Buffalo or with the Jets.

isocleas2
Member

7 years ago

#14

I don't think its fluff to say Kizer could have been a 1st round pick this year had he stuck around Notre Dame for one more season. They had a pretty good team and their biggest weakness was their passing game sucked, had Kizer been there they would have been in competition for the top 4 imo.

He was raw and put in a near impossible situation as a rookie, as long as he can put it behind him he has a good chance to become a starter in this league.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#15

Barf...do you HAVE to turn every thead into your own personal political rant?
45 years ago when I was in school, all we heard was “the next ice age is coming! We’re all gonna FREEZE!”
Now it’s “global warming! We’re all gonna FRY!” The liberal mantra of the day. The Earrh goes through phases.
End of story.

Kizer could end up being a diamond in the rough. Look at how Brett Favre started out with the Falcons. He could have ended up as a nothing. But Ron Wolf saw something in him that made him make a move that others thought was crazy. Give Kizer a shot. They have nothing to lose.
And I would expect the coach to say nice things about Kizer. He said nice things about Hundley, too.
I don’t put much into that.
What did people expect him to say? “We brought in a guy that will suck”.?

isocleas2
Member

7 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

97% of climate scientists disagree with you. When my truck has a problem i see an expert (mechanic), when i'm feeling sick i see an expert (doctor), not sure why you think we should ignore the experts about our climate just because you don't like their answers. 😁

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#17

You mean those same “experts” that said 45 years ago that we were going to FREEZE???
Yeah...trust those guys.
The same ones that say we evolved from a rock “millions of years ago”.
You can trust them if that makes you feel better.
As I said, the earth goes through times of hotter and times of colder.
Of course I also believe in God, and don’t think HE wouldn’t allow mankind to totally destroy it.
Man seems to think he is a lot more in control then he actually is.

Smokey
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#18

Does this all mean that DeShone Kizer will only be playing in hot weather or that cold weather teams should build Domes.

Hello, the thread was about how Kizer could have been a 1st round draft pick. People let's try to refocus ! [wtf]

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#19

97% of climate scientists disagree with you.

Originally Posted by: isocleas2

That statistic has been known to be bogus for years now, but that obviously has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Heck, I think Tim Tebow was a 1st round draft pick. I don't think it cements anyone's future where they were drafted. So, on that premise, consider those drafted this past season and Kizer's head coach said he wasn't ready for NFL last season and should stay, I am going to say ... yeah, Kizer would have been 1st round pick this draft.

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