Smokey
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6 years ago
The 2018 NFL Draft is over and GB has 11 new rookie players. The new GM has made trades, and in the end all of the Packers needs have been addressed It still remains to be seen how well the new players work out or if all will make the final 53 man roster.

IMO, I grade the GB Packers 2018 NFL Draft --- B+

Time will tell if that grade needs to be elevated or demoted.

[cheers]

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nerdmann
6 years ago

The 2018 NFL Draft is over and GB has 11 new rookie players. The new GM has made trades, and in the end all of the Packers needs have been addressed It still remains to be seen how well the new players work out or if all will make the final 53 man roster.

IMO, I grade the GB Packers 2018 NFL Draft --- B+

Time will tell if that grade needs to be elevated or demoted.

[cheers]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Did not address pass rush, except late with these UDFAs. Hopefully Biegel is The Man!
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DoddPower
6 years ago
There was no way the Packers were going to address every weakness in one draft. If they drafted all the positions of need in early rounds, it's unlikely all would make the team and certainly not all would actually address the weaknesses in year one. It's just not going to happen with one draft.

With that said, I'd still like to see Dez signed on a one year deal, and maybe add a little more pass rushing depth. I wouldn't mind Brooks being resigned, but hopefully someone better. 2019 is a strong draft, so the Packers just need to buy some time with a couple stop-gaps.
TheKanataThrilla
6 years ago
I am actually surprised we made that many picks. Granted one was for a punter and a long snapper which is not normal. I just wonder if we can stash all the guys who will not make the team on the PS? There is going to be lots of competition at training camp. I am afraid that some of these guys will be cut and signed by other teams which seems like a waste.
Smokey
  • Smokey
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6 years ago

There was no way the Packers were going to address every weakness in one draft. If they drafted all the positions of need in early rounds, it's unlikely all would make the team and certainly not all would actually address the weaknesses in year one. It's just not going to happen with one draft.

With that said, I'd still like to see Dez signed on a one year deal, and maybe add a little more pass rushing depth. I wouldn't mind Brooks being resigned, but hopefully someone better. 2019 is a strong draft, so the Packers just need to buy some time with a couple stop-gaps.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 




It would be a good lessen for you to examine the difference between want and need. I want a 1500 yard RB every season, but what is there will fill the need. I want a FG Kicker that never misses a kick and has a 75 yd range, but Crosby fills the need very nicely.

GB needed CBs, WRs, an ILB, an OT, an Edge Rusher, a Long Snapper, a DE and BG filled those needs. As a bonus the Packers also filled a want as they selected a Punter. They must all prove their worth, but the GM has done his part so far.

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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

It would be a good lessen for you to examine the difference between want and need. I want a 1500 yard RB every season, but what is there will fill the need. I want a FG Kicker that never misses a kick and has a 75 yd range, but Crosby fills the need very nicely.

GB needed CBs, WRs, an ILB, an OT, an Edge Rusher, a Long Snapper, a DE and BG filled those needs. As a bonus the Packers also filled a want as they selected a Punter. They must all prove their worth, but the GM has done his part so far.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



I want a Super Bowl victory every season.
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DoddPower
6 years ago

It would be a good lessen for you to examine the difference between want and need. I want a 1500 yard RB every season, but what is there will fill the need. I want a FG Kicker that never misses a kick and has a 75 yd range, but Crosby fills the need very nicely.

GB needed CBs, WRs, an ILB, an OT, an Edge Rusher, a Long Snapper, a DE and BG filled those needs. As a bonus the Packers also filled a want as they selected a Punter. They must all prove their worth, but the GM has done his part so far.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 




I like this draft class a lot. But the pass rush has NOT been sufficiently addressed. Sorry. At least one position wasn't going to be sufficiently addressed via the draft, so I look forward to a little more solid depth.
Smokey
  • Smokey
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6 years ago

I like this draft class a lot. But the pass rush has NOT been sufficiently addressed. Sorry. At least one position wasn't going to be sufficiently addressed via the draft, so I look forward to a little more solid depth.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



An inside pass rush can be as effective as a good Edge rushing attack. GB signed Wilkerson to start along side of Clark and Daniels. In addition, this trio may not rack up record numbers, but they will open holes for blitzing LBs and/or Safeties.

As for depth, the Packers drafted a DE as well as a designated Edge Rusher. They also drafted a good LB who played ILB at Vanderbilt U. You can also add players like Biegel and others that will carry over from 2017's roster.

Next time do your research before you post !

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isocleas2
6 years ago
I liked the draft alot, I wish they would have gotten a TE and/or EDGE rusher but you only have so many picks. The trade with New Orleans was great and i like the 3 WR, i bet only 1-2 make the roster but there could be a diamond in there somewhere.
isocleas2
6 years ago

I am actually surprised we made that many picks. Granted one was for a punter and a long snapper which is not normal. I just wonder if we can stash all the guys who will not make the team on the PS? There is going to be lots of competition at training camp. I am afraid that some of these guys will be cut and signed by other teams which seems like a waste.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



I think 6th and 7th round picks are cut by a good # of teams across the league. If you look at them through the trade calculator all the 7th round picks in the whole draft and not worth even one 3rd rounder. Best not to get too attached to them.

For example i think outside of Cole Madison none of the guys drafted in the 5th round or later are odds on favorites to make the roster, without injuries during training camp or one of them really standing out they likely are all practice squad or stash on IR types.

JK Scott (punter) 50/50 he beats out Vogel for the job
Marquez Valdes-Scantling (WR) Project 25-50% chance he makes the roster
Equanimeous St. Brown (WR) Same, project 25-50% chance to make roster
James Looney (DL) We didn't add many DL/EDGE so probably close to 50/50 to make roster.
Hunter Bradley (LS) Maybe the only late draft pick I feel pretty confident makes the roster (65%?)
Kendall Donnerson (EDGE) Freak athlete but major project, unless he makes all the ST groups 10% chance

I like these guys but you got to be realistic about their chances.
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