What the 1st round draft says about the Aaron Rodgers contract· Page 5

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

Kizer will not be "the guy" for the Packers. The Packers will be lucky if he even amounts to decent backup QB. I don't think Mike McCarthy is nearly as good at developing QBs as he seems to think.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

How good does McCarthy think he is at developing QBs? I haven't caught him praising himself there. Or maybe it's inferred by saying he's a highly successful head coach that also means QB guru?

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#42

I don’t think Kizer was brought in as Rodgers’ replacement. I think it’s for Hundley’s replacement.
They need a decent backup that can come in if your starter is out short term.
I think Kizer can do that. The pressure of playing on a really bad team was what brought him down.
Having time to learn, and not being expected to step in and be the “saviour” like he was in Cleveland, will do him good.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#43

How good does McCarthy think he is at developing QBs? I haven't caught him praising himself there. Or maybe it's inferred by saying he's a highly successful head coach that also means QB guru?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I've just always got the impression that Mike McCarthy thinks he's a QB guru, especially with his "QB school" used to be more intense before the new CBA. I read a comment from him recently that he misses the additional time with his QBs.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

#44

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

I think he was good with QBs when he had time to work with them, and had Tom Clements along with Joe Philbin. Same thing with coaches and OL. They cut back so they lose time and technique. The Rams just did a study on this too. Something about how it's taking longer for players to develop with new CBA.

But anyhow he has done well with QBs in the past too when he focused on them as QB coach.

He's the Head Coach (as ya know) now so he's got a lot more duties. Kinda unrealistic to give him too much credit or blame I think.

dyeah_gb
Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

#45

Rounds 1 and 2 in the books and it is all D. Based on my thinking in the initial post, Gutekunst is not concerned about the AR contract at this time.

I like the draft decisions so far. Gutekunst and the guy in the Progressive Insurance commercial think alike: "Defense wins championships".

The Packer's secondary has the potential to be the best in the League in a couple years. Lots of questions though: What will HHCD be doing in two years? Will King stay healthy and progress? Can the new D coaching staff convert great talent and athleticism into reliable NFL starters?

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

#46

Rounds 1 and 2 in the books and it is all D. Based on my thinking in the initial post, Gutekunst is not concerned about the Aaron Rodgers contract at this time.

I like the draft decisions so far. Gutekunst and the guy in the Progressive Insurance commercial think alike: "Defense wins championships".

The Packer's secondary has the potential to be the best in the League in a couple years. Lots of questions though: What will HHCD be doing in two years? Will King stay healthy and progress? Can the new D coaching staff convert great talent and athleticism into reliable NFL starters?

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb

Not sure they're thrilled with Dix. Dude needs to redeem himself.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

#47

Well, they traded one DB to the Browns, and have picked up 2 so far.
If that doesn’t tell Dix that he better pull his weight or be gone, I don’t know what does.

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