Zero2Cool
7 years ago
It takes some humility to say after 12 years, you need to start over. I'm excited about this, how about you?

The Packers have seen big changes to their front office and coaching staff since the end of the season with new General Manager Brian Gutekunst joining new offensive and defensive coordinators as the team tries to bounce back from their first losing season since 2008.

There have also been changes to the roster, including the departure of wide receiver Jordy Nelson and acquisitions of free agents like Jimmy Graham and Muhammad Wilkerson. Head coach Mike McCarthy remains in place, but said at last week’s league meetings that the changes have gone beyond the new hires in those positions. McCarthy said the team has taken a “scrub-brush approach to the whole system” that includes changes to their well-worn offensive playbook.

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yooperfan
7 years ago
I think McCarthy knows he's on borrowed time.
If the Packers don't make a serious run at another Lombardi over the next two years he's gone.
buckeyepackfan
7 years ago
Mike's not under any pressure.
He knows he's done in Green Bay after this year.
He's going to say all the right things and go about doing his job just as he always has.

Somebody please explain "serious run in the playoffs"
4 0f the 9 times Mike has had The Packers in the playoffs they went to The NFC Championship game.
Are those "serious runs "?

Really doesn't matter now.
Mike's future is somewhere else.

My concern is Aaron Rodgers.
Shod have signed his extension by now.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Cheesey
7 years ago
If MM leads the Packers to a SB title, he won’t be going anywhere. But if he doesn’t, chances are he’s gone.
I also don’t get what the holdup is with AR and his contract.
The longer it takes, the bigger the chance that he doesn’t want to be here anymore.
JMO of course. I don’t have any inside info.
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Smokey
7 years ago

If Mike McCarthy leads the Packers to a SB title, he won’t be going anywhere. But if he doesn’t, chances are he’s gone.
I also don’t get what the holdup is with Aaron Rodgers and his contract.
The longer it takes, the bigger the chance that he doesn’t want to be here anymore.
JMO of course. I don’t have any inside info.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Coach McCarthy, much like a chef, can only cook with the ingredients that he is supplied with. With a new GM, it would be unfair to expect so great a change so quickly. I will be happy if GB wins the NFC North and then survived a Wildcard Playoff game. After all, it's going to take more than one season for BG to build the Packers into SB contenders.
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isocleas2
7 years ago
I think tales of McCarthys demise are premature, and if he is fired he'll be sought after pretty highly. Similar to Andy Reid when he parted with Philadelphia.

TheKanataThrilla
7 years ago

Coach McCarthy, much like a chef, can only cook with the ingredients that he is supplied with. With a new GM, it would be unfair to expect so great a change so quickly. I will be happy if GB wins the NFC North and then survived a Wildcard Playoff game. After all, it's going to take more than one season for BG to build the Packers into SB contenders.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Wouldn't that be a step back? We can't really count last year as Aaron was hurt, but the last full season with Rodgers we were in the NFC Championship Game. Anything short of a Super Bowl appearance to me is a disappointment. Looking at what the Eagles, Rams and Vikings have done this offseason I have a feeling I will be disappointed. Then again many teams have loaded up with free agents in the past and failed.

Smokey
7 years ago

Wouldn't that be a step back? We can't really count last year as Aaron was hurt, but the last full season with Rodgers we were in the NFC Championship Game. Anything short of a Super Bowl appearance to me is a disappointment. Looking at what the Eagles, Rams and Vikings have done this offseason I have a feeling I will be disappointed. Then again many teams have loaded up with free agents in the past and failed.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



With a new GM, a new OC, and a new DC, you feel that GB should play in next years SB ? [rofl]

Last season showed how one dimensional the Packers were. I believe BG saw that as well and has begun to build a more multidimensional team. The Eagles and the Rams are fortunate that currently their QBs are not requiring big money that they can spend to hire FAs like Suh and Ajayi.

HC McCarthy is just as busy rebuilding as BG currently is. By the start of the regular season
I'm looking forward to seeing a fresh and revitalized Packers. With an Offense tailored to fit the players. A more slimed down and efficient system that will slowly add more to the playbook as the weeks move forward. The key to success however will lie with the success of GB's Secondary. They will be difference between winning and loosing.







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nerdmann
7 years ago

If Mike McCarthy leads the Packers to a SB title, he won’t be going anywhere. But if he doesn’t, chances are he’s gone.
I also don’t get what the holdup is with Aaron Rodgers and his contract.
The longer it takes, the bigger the chance that he doesn’t want to be here anymore.
JMO of course. I don’t have any inside info.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Good. Because that shows this management team has the cojones to stand up to Aaron. Somebody in the organization has to have that, and it's no longer Ted. We all know that person isn't gonna be Mark Murphy.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Cheesey
7 years ago
Yes, you have to “stand up” to a player. But when that player KNOWS you have NO CHANCE of success without him, HE holds all the cards.
Last season’s awful showing just proves that more and gives AR all the proof he needs.
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