Zero2Cool
7 years ago
This is pretty fascinating to me and exciting. Mike and Joe building an offense together with Aaron Rodgers as the leader? This should be great fun!


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gbguy20
7 years ago
Maybe we will be a west coast offense again like when our offense was actually good.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Maybe we will be a west coast offense again like when our offense was actually good.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



I wanna see Randall Cobb getting hit on some slants! The dude is good in open field, get him in the damn open field! Jimmy Graham can run streak, pulling the secondary back, while Cobb slants to the middle, boom! This shit easy yo.
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Pack93z
7 years ago
Is it the play book or the play calling?

Is Mike suddenly going to become less conservative or will he grow a set and put his foot on the other teams neck when needed.

I like the fact they are retooling everything, but unless Mike takes the chains off at times, will it be effective in game?

Oh.. and let Pettine be as aggressive as he wishes.. let them play with their hair on fire... not sit back and wait to be dissected. If we see a high percentage of two lineman with only 1 backer rushing the passer... errrr.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Barfarn
7 years ago
Who’s new? Philbin, Hostler, Cignetti? These guys are all McCarthy clones…

If a guy that can only write Chinese rewrites a book, it’ll still be in Chinese.

This might be cover for dumbing down the passing game for…guess who?…CORRECT, the new football moron TE who got paid top dollar 😂.

Problem is it will negate the thing that Rodgers does better than anyone else has done, which makes one wonder…is Rodgers NOT getting his extension. We might know for sure after day 1 of the draft.
DarkaneRules
7 years ago
Rodgers can still break the play's design if he wants. That's his choice. He's still the QB and the de-facto leader of the offense.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
7 years ago
Hope this means the 7 yard deep toss on 2nd and 2 is removed from the playbook!

If they amp up the slant game as well, whoooo boy!
Cheesey
7 years ago
“Captain Negative” strikes again!
(I think you know who I mean!)
THE SKY IS FALLING!
I’m glad they are changing things around.
We have too many offensive weapons to not “put the foot on the gas”.
Too many times we have been conservative, which cost us.

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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
something that needed to be done for a while. I think they got spoiled and didn't realize how much of the offensive success was a result of talent and not play design. When you have Rodgers/Farve along with Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Finley and later Cobb. It makes play calling easier. Over the years the talent level for receiving options has gradually declined and as it did we have seen the offense struggle more. McCarthy needs to get back to designing plays to help get players open rather than just depending on a matchup and our guys beating theirs.
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Barfarn
7 years ago

something that needed to be done for a while. I think they got spoiled and didn't realize how much of the offensive success was a result of talent and not play design. When you have Rodgers/Farve along with Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Finley and later Cobb. It makes play calling easier. Over the years the talent level for receiving options has gradually declined and as it did we have seen the offense struggle more. McCarthy needs to get back to designing plays to help get players open rather than just depending on a matchup and our guys beating theirs.

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This is just more of a seemingly unhinged McCarthy trying to outrun his shadow. Or this is cover for dumbing it down for a new TE acquisition.

Playbooks don’t design players open. Their function is to teach the dynamics of the offense and provide a mechanism for communicating large amounts to 11 guys in a few words.

When the PB is written, each defensive player is marked with a generic nondescript symbol. You don’t know if the “RCB” is Revis or Herb Waters. If Revis, you cant design a play that gets the one he’s covering open. You don’t know if the DL is strong or weak or how much they blitz, etc. You don’t even know the identity of your guys; EG, is the “QB” Rodgers or Hundley?

Also, a PB play as written has each defender lined up at one spot on the “paper” [plus perhaps a few notes about anticipated D reactions]. The reality is that if this play is run 20x per year, it’ll be defended 15 different ways.

Also, when a play is called, no one knows if the D is in press, zone, man, 9 men in box, 2 deep, 3 deep, etc.

A team cant scheme mismatches until they’ve scouted the team they know they’re playing and view both injury reports. This has NOTHING to do with the playbook, per se. And even then, the play caller cant truly scheme a guy open, because he doesn’t know how they’ll line up.

The only one that can truly scheme guys open is the QB, after he’s see the D’s alignment and knows whether the play called will work. If guys aren't open [Though this is not the case in reality] the problem is the QB.
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