Zero2Cool
7 years ago
Clinton-Dix in 2018 will be someone I watch with this new scheme. I'm not sure I put Davante Adams in the top 15 WR though.

Mel Kiper released his re-grades of the 2017 NFL Draft.  The Packers grade moved from a B+ to a B.  This is completely understandable. Kevin King got hurt, Vince Biegel got hurt, Montravius Adams got hurt and Josh Jones saw just spot duty.  Jamaal Williams and Aaron Jones were underdrafted. The problem with that is [...]

Let’s get it crackin:

1.21 – HaHa Clinton-Dix

It’ll be an unpopular opinion but this was a no brainer for the Packers, and stands that way. People that are angry about the way HHCD played in 2017 forget too quickly how disastrous the Packers safety position was before Clinton-Dix stabilized it.

Clinton-Dix was actually closer to average than he was abysmal in 2017, not allowing really anything behind him in deep coverage, but playing poorly around the line of scrimmage and with questionable effort. PFF ranked him 40th out of 82 qualified safeties. This was after an excellent 2015 and an even better 2016.

No matter how you look at it, Clinton-Dix completely reshaped GB’s safety group. His lackluster 2017 puts a “-” on the A

Grade: A-



2.53 – Davante Adams

Adams came on strong as a rookie, played very poorly as a sophomore, responded with a solid third season and made it clear he was Green Bay’s best skill position player in 2017. Adams signed a big extension. This one doesn’t need to be talked about. He’s a top 15 player at his position and to get that value in the 2nd round is A+ work. Not much more needs to be said here.

Grade: A+

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Cheesey
7 years ago
I think Adams IS that good. He still performed at a high level with a crappy QB throwing the ball.

Zero2Cool
7 years ago

I think Adams IS that good. He still performed at a high level with a crappy QB throwing the ball.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Let us test my statement by seeing if I can name 15 WR better than Davante Adams.

[list=1]
  • Antonio Brown
  • Julio Jones
  • Odell Beckham
  • DeAndre Hopkins
  • AJ Green
  • Amari Cooper
  • Josh Gordon
  • Brandin Cooks
  • Demaryius Thomas
  • Mike Evans
  • Jarvis Landry
  • Keenan Allen
  • Stefon Diggs
  • Larry Fitzgerald
  • Allen Robinson
  • Michael Thomas
  • T.Y. Hilton
  • [/list]


    Even with that list, I suppose I can retract my statement and yeah, he's around top 15 WR. Adams, the thing I really like about him is his drive off the line and that quick twitch he has to avoid press coverage. Dude made Richard Sherman look silly I believe last season or the season before.
    Cheesey
    7 years ago
    Listing guys you think are better then Adams doesn’t mean they ARE better.

    Of course I AM a “homer”!🤣

    gbguy20
    7 years ago
    Who the fuck is Michael Thomas? John Smith is better than Davante too.
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    nerdmann
    7 years ago
    Faster doesn’t mean better.
    “Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
    wpr
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    7 years ago

    Faster doesn’t mean better.

    Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



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