nerdmann
7 years ago

That stat goes hand in hand with having an awful 3rd down defense. Having a great 1st and 2nd down D doesn't mean a damn thing when it all goes to shit on 3rd.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Dom has a few games to figure something out. This Ravens offense isn't that great.

I look at pass rush as the biggest problem on the D. Clay just doesn't have it anymore. He's above average, nothing great. Perry is a run stuffing OLB. He hasn't done jack all year, until the Bares game. Granted, they had scrubs at T, but then again, Perry has been stymied by scrubs earlier this year. MAYBE, just maybe, his hand is getting better and that will help him. Who knows?

We've also got Abdul coming back and the wild cards, Vince Biegel and Montravius Adams, who although a down lineman, is still a pass rush guy. Theoretically, the tools MIGHT be there. We shall see.

We need the tools to legitimately be there, AND Dom to be able to utilize them. Alternatively, Dom needs to be able to do it with smoke and mirrors.

The offense hasn't been helping the D, but it's just a unique situation from that standpoint. We've needed the D to carry this team for a bit, and they've been in free fall. Hopefully the O is getting it together, and that might help the D hold it together too. Lotta variables in play. Kind of centers around the pass rush though, imo.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago
Who's Abdul? Hodge?

If the Ds turnaround is dependent on pass rush, you may as well accept what you've been seeing.

Even if we had a great pass rush our CBs would still be terrible just a little less noticeable. Tired of depending on something to mask something else. Can't we just be competent in most areas with a few if great strength?
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gbguy20
7 years ago

Dom has a few games to figure something out. This Ravens offense isn't that great.

I look at pass rush as the biggest problem on the D. Clay just doesn't have it anymore. He's above average, nothing great. Perry is a run stuffing OLB. He hasn't done jack all year, until the Bares game. Granted, they had scrubs at T, but then again, Perry has been stymied by scrubs earlier this year. MAYBE, just maybe, his hand is getting better and that will help him. Who knows?

We've also got Abdul coming back and the wild cards, Vince Biegel and Montravius Adams, who although a down lineman, is still a pass rush guy. Theoretically, the tools MIGHT be there. We shall see.

We need the tools to legitimately be there, AND Dom to be able to utilize them. Alternatively, Dom needs to be able to do it with smoke and mirrors.

The offense hasn't been helping the D, but it's just a unique situation from that standpoint. We've needed the D to carry this team for a bit, and they've been in free fall. Hopefully the O is getting it together, and that might help the D hold it together too. Lotta variables in play. Kind of centers around the pass rush though, imo.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Dom has had years to figure it out and he still hasn't, what makes you think that suddenly changes in the next couple of games? I'm beginning to think your sudden positivity is just trolling. It's incredibly awkward.
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hardrocker950
7 years ago

Dom has had years to figure it out and he still hasn't, what makes you think that suddenly changes in the next couple of games? I'm beginning to think your sudden positivity is just trolling. It's incredibly awkward.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Exactly why it irritates most of us fans. Not because the defense has mostly sucked this year, but because it has been going on for quite some time. Nothing new about that.

I will say they looked better against the Bears, but still skeptical - because it was against a team that hasn't been much of an offensive threat outside their run game. Until I see them make some stops against a good offense, I will continue to be unimpressed. I suppose the upcoming match with Pittsburgh will tell the story.
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