uffda udfa
7 years ago
https://kfan.iheart.com/featured/the-common-man/content/2017-11-10-progrum-playback-aaron-rodgers-to-start-for-vikings-in-2018/ 

Interesting to see the above headline. I checked spotrac...looks like 12 can opt out of his contract at end of season.

There's no way he's playing this year short of getting his extension beforehand and he may not even want to do that.

Starting to wonder if he was bummed, his prior to being drafted by the Packers, favorite team traded for Garoppolo? Perhaps, he was hoping to go home after this season?

As hole filled as this team is, Aaron Rodgers could blind to that reality by being the biggest off the field story in the same way he covers warts during the season. I hope this potential coming major focus on 12s contract doesn't distract from the multiple pressing needs this team has.

EDIT: If 12 was to opt out would that be a sign there are actually significant issues within the organization? Would that be a sign to those who think not blowing it up is best that maybe it should've been blown up a long time ago?
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Porforis
7 years ago

EDIT: If 12 was to opt out would that be a sign there are actually significant issues within the organization? Would that be a sign to those who think not blowing it up is best that maybe it should've been blown up a long time ago?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



If he were to opt out as a hypothetical, I'd be on the "blow it up, now" bandwagon for sure. Already am leaning that way on the defense, if AR12 goes then you'd might as well do it on the offense and chunks of the organization/coaching too.
sschind
7 years ago

https://kfan.iheart.com/featured/the-common-man/content/2017-11-10-progrum-playback-aaron-rodgers-to-start-for-vikings-in-2018/

Interesting to see the above headline. I checked spotrac...looks like 12 can opt out of his contract at end of season.

There's no way he's playing this year short of getting his extension beforehand and he may not even want to do that.

Starting to wonder if he was bummed, his prior to being drafted by the Packers, favorite team traded for Garoppolo? Perhaps, he was hoping to go home after this season?

As hole filled as this team is, Aaron Rodgers could blind to that reality by being the biggest off the field story in the same way he covers warts during the season. I hope this potential coming major focus on 12s contract doesn't distract from the multiple pressing needs this team has.

EDIT: If 12 was to opt out would that be a sign there are actually significant issues within the organization? Would that be a sign to those who think not blowing it up is best that maybe it should've been blown up a long time ago?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I must be missing something. I can't see anything that indicates he has an opt out option.

this is where I am looking

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/aaron-rodgers-3745/ 

Are you sure the "Potential out 2018" after the 2017 refers to Rodgers and not the packers. Since they specifically mention 0 in dead cap I thought they may mean the Packers could get out of it with nothing on the books. You may be right but I'm still not sure. I've seen contracts for some players (can't recall who exactly) where it specifically said so and so has an opt out clause. Of course its seems to be a new format for the site so it may just be me not reading it right.
beast
7 years ago

I checked spotrac...looks like 12 can opt out of his contract at end of season.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


That tricked me as well earlier this year as well. I think it's spotrac's way of saying what the numbers would be if the player were to released before the next season.

Spotrac seems to have that for every veteran who's not in a contract year. So unless Rodgers, Crosby, Nelson, Cobb, Bennett, Kendricks, Matthews, Perry, many more... all have an options after the 2017, then I think it's a poorly worded item for spotrac and not really an option.


Also do NFL teams use players options, where players can opt out?
I know they sometimes use team options, where teams can opt out if they choose so.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago

I must be missing something. I can't see anything that indicates he has an opt out option.

this is where I am looking

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/aaron-rodgers-3745/ 

Are you sure the "Potential out 2018" after the 2017 refers to Rodgers and not the packers. Since they specifically mention 0 in dead cap I thought they may mean the Packers could get out of it with nothing on the books. You may be right but I'm still not sure. I've seen contracts for some players (can't recall who exactly) where it specifically said so and so has an opt out clause. Of course its seems to be a new format for the site so it may just be me not reading it right.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



That's a great question. I don't have the answer. KFAN, my old stomping grounds, had a story on Cowherd's comments suggesting he could opt out. I immediately looked over at Spotrac.com and saw the opt out verbiage and thought there was enough there to make a thread out of it. I added the question mark in the subject line because I wasn't 100% sure.

For me, I was just going to sit back and see how long it was until we got word on extension talks taking place. Why wouldn't he be extended by now? His injury may play a role in all of this, too. I could actually see our management trying to save a few shekels by bringing up his injury. I wouldn't want to be the one dealing with these negotiations.

Hopefully, one of us can find something to verify or debunk the idea that he can opt out at the end of the season. As was noted above, in a sense, it's the club that usually holds the option and has the right to exercise it, or not.


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7 years ago
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greengold
7 years ago
All this means is the entirety of the $33.25 million signing bonus paid to Rodgers in 2013 has been counted against the cap after 2017.

The total amount of any signing bonus shall be prorated over the term of the Player Contract (on a straight-line basis, unless subject to acceleration or some other treatment as provided in this Agreement), with a maximum proration of five years

 


So his base salary increases dramatically next year, but there is no more "dead money" (uncounted signing bonus) for a team to worry about if the team wanted to go in a different direction. This only comes up with contracts that are longer than 5 years, obviously.



Zero2Cool
7 years ago
Aaron Rodgers cannot opt out of his current contract.
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