uffda udfa
7 years ago

From Mike Freeman at BleacherReport.com:

Aaron Rodgers, for years, has covered up massive holes on the Packers roster: A flawed offensive line. A lack of top-notch running backs. A ho-hum defense. Poor drafts and free-agent decisions.

For years, Rodgers has covered all of these shortcomings.

Now, he's gone, and the Packers have little to cushion the blow.

How badly did they miss him last week? The leading receiver for Green Bay in a loss to New Orleans was tight end Martellus Bennett, who had two catches for 17 yards and no touchdowns.

This is what life without Rodgers will be like while he heals from a broken collarbone—all of the flaws exposed, ugly on both sides of the ball.



--- What I find interesting is Freeman was a Ted defender in the past. What this shows you is when you're winning it's all positive...when you're losing it's all negative. What happens when you lose and negativity comes out those who loved living in positivity have grown so accustomed to it they balk at negative talk and immediately point to past good times. Their level of confidence in things returning positive is extremely high and will mock negative talk.

Here's the rub...The WHY of winning or losing is never truly deconstructed. So it matters not if talk is positive or negative it only truly matters is the why. Why= Aaron Rodgers...always has, but MM, Ted Thompson and others ride his coattails receiving accolades undeserved that should be solely reserved for 12.

I'd love to see Hundley win enough to make a hypothetical Rodgers return matter, but I also wouldn't mind seeing us go oh for the rest of the season if we can blow out Ted and Mike and start with some fresh ideas and passion that has been sorely lacking.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


7 years ago
I don't invest any of my "Packer time" with blinders on like sooooo many Packer fans do. Not living in Wisconsin( born in Green Bay), I look at the team different. Many of you are happy enough to just make the playoffs. There should have been more trips to the SB during Ted Thompson and MM's tenure. MM should have been fired after the loss to Seattle in the NFC Championship game. That being said, how many busts on the dline and linebacking corps is it going to take before the GM takes some heat? A few of the secondary players worth a damn are now playing for other teams too. Capers has to take some blame, but it should not all fall at his feet. We have pathetic first round draft choices on defense. Most of them will be gone after their first contract.

Also, without a Farve or Rodgers to bail him out, McCarthy is just a pedestrian coach who happened to step in a pile of shit and came out smelling like a rose. When Rodgers got hurt the first time, he looked lost and clueless. Expect more of the same.
Green Bay will be lucky to win two more games the rest of the year (Cleveland and Chicago, maybe) but Teflon Mike already has his excuse and nothing will be said. Horrible state of affairs if you ask me. Thank you.
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
Claiming that the Packers have had a flawed offensive line for years discredits anything this bozo says.

It is funny watching your delusions show up after the injury.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Porforis
7 years ago
Not saying this is what's going on here (because for the most part it's not), but it IS possible to say that Ted Thompson has done a good job, and also have a team that's struggling without AR12. Case in point: Injuries all over the place.
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

I don't invest any of my "Packer time" with blinders on like sooooo many Packer fans do. Not living in Wisconsin( born in Green Bay), I look at the team different. Many of you are happy enough to just make the playoffs. There should have been more trips to the SB during Ted Thompson and MM's tenure. Mike McCarthy should have been fired after the loss to Seattle in the NFC Championship game. That being said, how many busts on the dline and linebacking corps is it going to take before the GM takes some heat? A few of the secondary players worth a damn are now playing for other teams too. Capers has to take some blame, but it should not all fall at his feet. We have pathetic first round draft choices on defense. Most of them will be gone after their first contract.

Also, without a Farve or Rodgers to bail him out, McCarthy is just a pedestrian coach who happened to step in a pile of shit and came out smelling like a rose. When Rodgers got hurt the first time, he looked lost and clueless. Expect more of the same.

Green Bay will be lucky to win two more games the rest of the year (Cleveland and Chicago, maybe) but Teflon Mike already has his excuse and nothing will be said. Horrible state of affairs if you ask me. Thank you.

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 



The funny thing about this is you feel you are a better "fan" than others because you view the team with a half-empty approach an those who view the team with a half-full approach are viewing via blinders.

Yet, we only hear from you when the Packers are down, or have lost.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

Not saying this is what's going on here (because for the most part it's not), but it IS possible to say that Ted Thompson has done a good job, and also have a team that's struggling without AR12. Case in point: Injuries all over the place.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



He has done a good job on the offensive side. There has been blockers and receivers and even a RB or two. He has fallen short on the defensive side. Part of that is cap management, there needs to be a better balance between offense and defense. I think most of us expect them to sign Devante and Linsley this offseason, that means we will be paying 4 of 5 positions on the Oline, 3 WR.

We can't afford that and still expect to improve the defense. We can't just count on first contract players to carry the defense because we are spending everywhere else.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
uffda udfa
7 years ago

Claiming that the Packers have had a flawed offensive line for years discredits anything this bozo says.

It is funny watching your delusions show up after the injury.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



The OL is flawed...why do you think Rodgers is always extending plays with his legs? The year he won MVP with Newhouse starting was a monumental achievement. Oh, and little to no separation has something to do with it, also.


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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

The OL is flawed...why do you think Rodgers is always extending plays with his legs? The year he won MVP with Newhouse starting was a monumental achievement. Oh, and little to no separation has something to do with it, also.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Explains why ProFootballFocus has had the Packers Oline ranked outside the top 10 in the league once in the past 5 years.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Nonstopdrivel
7 years ago
ProFootballFocus grades individual players, not units, and they are very forthright about saying you can't add together individual ratings to get group ratings. Or at least they used to when I was a subscriber. So where are you getting this idea that they rank the offensive line in the top ten?
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

ProFootballFocus grades individual players, not units, and they are very forthright about saying you can't add together individual ratings to get group ratings. Or at least they used to when I was a subscriber. So where are you getting this idea that they rank the offensive line in the top ten?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Just let my fingers do the walking through the internet. Just googled it.

2015 Ranking 
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