Zero2Cool
7 years ago
There isn't one!! We fooking suck!!!

Dom Capers has been here for many years and we still have communication issues? That's on him. If your players cannot communicate the damn scheme, then the scheme needs to change and tailor to the players. We have a lot of talent on defense. 2010 players were asked what is to credit for the defensive turn around, they said the scheme was scaled back to where they could just ... and get this people ... they could just PLAY without thinking! Freaking brilliant!!!

Matt Patricia at New England continues to find ways to plug and play.
Wade Philips at LA Rams continues to find ways to plug and play.
Gus Bradley has turned Casey Hayward into a damn star.

Enough cute bullshit. You beat YOUR man. You beat YOUR man and let the damn chips fall where they may.
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DoddPower
7 years ago

There isn't one!! We fooking suck!!!

Dom Capers has been here for many years and we still have communication issues? That's on him. If your players cannot communicate the damn scheme, then the scheme needs to change and tailor to the players. We have a lot of talent on defense. 2010 players were asked what is to credit for the defensive turn around, they said the scheme was scaled back to where they could just ... and get this people ... they could just PLAY without thinking! Freaking brilliant!!!

Matt Patricia at New England continues to find ways to plug and play.
Wade Philips at LA Rams continues to find ways to plug and play.
Gus Bradley has turned Casey Hayward into a damn star.

Enough cute bullshit. You beat YOUR man. You beat YOUR man and let the damn chips fall where they may.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I simply cannot understand the continued acceptance of mediocrity in Green Bay. How much embarrassment can you allow? It sets a precedence that mediocrity is accepted, which likely infiltrates the entire organization.

I am all for being patient, but there has to be a limit. Produce good results, or we must continue to search for someone that will. Nothing personal and no hard feelings. It's bigger than any one person.
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
While Dom definitely has issues with the defense, especially the 5-15 yards middle. I can accept King making some mistakes at this point of his career when he was basically facing two way routes. He bit on the inside the WR goes to the corner where there was no help. Had he protected the corner route, WR goes inside but at least there he would have had help from HaHa.

A really good Head coach and offensive guru would be able to look at the defense and say here is your weakness and how I as an OC would call plays to exploit it. Perhaps that is the real problem. McCarthy love to play the sidelines and deep. He doesn't gameplan to exploit the shallow and middepth middle of the field where all the other teams make their money against our defense
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7 years ago

I simply cannot understand the continued acceptance of mediocrity in Green Bay. How much embarrassment can you allow? It sets a precedence that mediocrity is accepted, which likely infiltrates the entire organization.

I am all for being patient, but there has to be a limit. Produce good results, or we must continue to search for someone that will. Nothing personal and no hard feelings. It's bigger than any one person.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Com'on. That's just being spoiled. You aught to be thankful for the 2 SB in 25 years. 🙄
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

I simply cannot understand the continued acceptance of mediocrity in Green Bay. How much embarrassment can you allow? It sets a precedence that mediocrity is accepted, which likely infiltrates the entire organization.

I am all for being patient, but there has to be a limit. Produce good results, or we must continue to search for someone that will. Nothing personal and no hard feelings. It's bigger than any one person.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Yeah, I cannot understand why you are accepting mediocrity myself. Or are you not talking about you? I am confused. (surprise!)

It was NFC Championship game that got me feeling a change might be a good thing, for all parties.

I pin the Saints loss on McCarthy's game plan, he was way too conservative. How do you get two turnovers in the first half and squander them like that?

Dom Capers always gets torched by elite QB's (most defenses do, hence QB being elite), and even some half-ass QB's get huge digits using the middle of the field. The problem I have with Capers (and most fans) is the 30+ average points given up in playoff losses. And those playoff losses are why I would like to see a new defensive coordinator.

Com'on. That's just being spoiled. You aught to be thankful for the 2 SB in 25 years. 🙄

Originally Posted by: wpr 



You can be thankful for the rings and still expect more from your team. If the team simply got out played, so be it. The mental mistakes, the miscommunication that continues to be a staple ... that's unacceptable. A mistake is forgivable. Repeated mistakes, no, not forgivable.

If McCarthy comes out with a similar game plan vs Lions, let him go. He's had Hundley for two seasons and three camps. If he hasn't got him ready to lead the team for half season or more, he's failed his job.
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nerdmann
7 years ago

I simply cannot understand the continued acceptance of mediocrity in Green Bay. How much embarrassment can you allow? It sets a precedence that mediocrity is accepted, which likely infiltrates the entire organization.

I am all for being patient, but there has to be a limit. Produce good results, or we must continue to search for someone that will. Nothing personal and no hard feelings. It's bigger than any one person.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Careful, you're starting to sound like me.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nerdmann
7 years ago

While Dom definitely has issues with the defense, especially the 5-15 yards middle. I can accept King making some mistakes at this point of his career when he was basically facing two way routes. He bit on the inside the WR goes to the corner where there was no help. Had he protected the corner route, WR goes inside but at least there he would have had help from HaHa.

A really good Head coach and offensive guru would be able to look at the defense and say here is your weakness and how I as an OC would call plays to exploit it. Perhaps that is the real problem. McCarthy love to play the sidelines and deep. He doesn't gameplan to exploit the shallow and middepth middle of the field where all the other teams make their money against our defense

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



The defense imploded in the 4th quarter. They held up well, but they got worn down. I put this largely on the offense. Burn some damn clock. Move the damn chains.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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7 years ago

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You can be thankful for the rings and still expect more from your team. If the team simply got out played, so be it. The mental mistakes, the miscommunication that continues to be a staple ... that's unacceptable. A mistake is forgivable. Repeated mistakes, no, not forgivable.

If McCarthy comes out with a similar game plan vs Lions, let him go. He's had Hundley for two seasons and three camps. If he hasn't got him ready to lead the team for half season or more, he's failed his job.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah about my comment. I was being a smart ass. I certainly expect more from the Packers organization than what we have gotten but there is always someone who says that is being spoiled.
It's not really bad to expect excellence and to be disappointed when they fail to deliver.




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Cheesey
7 years ago
Our defense looked like "The Keystone Cops" out there. They should can the whole lot of them. We won't beat anybody with that kind of awful play.
Can't tackle, can't cover, can't pressure a QB.
Other then that, they are just fine!
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TheKanataThrilla
7 years ago

The defense imploded in the 4th quarter. They held up well, but they got worn down. I put this largely on the offense. Burn some damn clock. Move the damn chains.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



That is it. If you looking at the Stat line for yards the D was terrible, but man you can't lose the ToP that bad. However.....our 3rd and long D was absolutely cringe worthy and just frustrates the hell out of me. Our pass rush needs to get home quicker and we cannot be giving 5 yards off the ball on the LoS.
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