nerdmann
7 years ago

How many teams win all the time with their second string QB, coming into the game with 3 of their top 5 DBs and then losing two more during the game?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



We don't only shit ourselves with our second string QB, coming into the game with 3 of our tops DBs and then losing two more of them. We shit ourselves consistently, no matter what.

The problem is, when you play that way normally, it becomes a habit. Right now, we don't have that margin of error anymore. So we have to suddenly stop self shitting and play consistently.

If you'd like to discuss the shit suckage of the training staff, we can do that too.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
7 years ago

We don't only shit ourselves with our second string QB, coming into the game with 3 of our tops DBs and then losing two more of them. We shit ourselves consistently, no matter what.

The problem is, when you play that way normally, it becomes a habit. Right now, we don't have that margin of error anymore. So we have to suddenly stop self shitting and play consistently.

If you'd like to discuss the shit suckage of the training staff, we can do that too.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Honestly, are you having an emotional/mental breakdown?

I'm not kidding. I just want to make sure you're okay, because you seem to be taking this WAY too personally.

Because you're doing what you're claiming the Packers do... so are you alright?
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Porforis
7 years ago

We don't only shit ourselves with your second string QB, coming into the game with 3 of our tops DBs and then losing two more of them. We shit ourselves consistently, no matter what.

The problem is, when you play that way normally, it becomes a habit. Right now, we don't have that margin of error anymore. So we have to suddenly stop self shitting and play consistently.

If you'd like to discuss the shit suckage of the training staff, we can do that too.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



25-30 teams a year 'shit themselves' a good 4-6 games a year, every year. I just think it's sad when their teams consistently find a way to complain about their teams no matter what happens. Franchise QB goes down with injuries? He needs to get the ball out faster (even though he's getting it out on average 20ms slower than 40 year old Tom Brady).

God forbid if you were a fan of a 50th or 75th percentile team. It's almost as if you don't pay attention to the rest of the NFL and how highly flawed almost every team is.
nerdmann
7 years ago

25-30 teams a year 'shit themselves' a good 4-6 games a year, every year. I just think it's sad when their teams consistently find a way to complain about their teams no matter what happens. Franchise QB goes down with injuries? He needs to get the ball out faster (even though he's getting it out on average 20ms slower than 40 year old Tom Brady).

God forbid if you were a fan of a 50th or 75th percentile team. It's almost as if you don't pay attention to the rest of the NFL and how highly flawed almost every team is.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Like I said, I don't mind losing if we're not the better team. I just don't like to be embarrassed.

As for Aaron, I call him out for holding the ball too long even when he doesn't get injured as a result. I'm not sayingnthat because he gotnhirt. I say it, because it's true.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Porforis
7 years ago


As for Aaron, I call him out for holding the ball too long even when he doesn't get injured as a result. I'm not sayingnthat because he gotnhirt. I say it, because it's true.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



No, you say that because you're constantly looking for reasons to figure out the difference between this warped idea in your head of what this team should be, with what they are. Again, he holds the ball on average 20ms more than Tom Brady. If you were a Patriots fan would you be yelling at Tom Brady three times a week complaining that he's not executing the offense and holding onto the ball for too long? Or are you saying that's what separates him from Tom Brady, 20ms? All Aaron needs to do is get the ball out 0.02 seconds faster on average? Or hell, even 0.22 seconds faster and he'd be the second-fastest in the NFL at getting the ball out. Would you be happy then?

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throw 
greengold
7 years ago

This team has been embarrassing even when we win, starting wih the training staff.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



You're an idiot.


nerdmann
7 years ago

No, you say that because you're constantly looking for reasons to figure out the difference between this warped idea in your head of what this team should be, with what they are. Again, he holds the ball on average 20ms more than Tom Brady. If you were a Patriots fan would you be yelling at Tom Brady three times a week complaining that he's not executing the offense and holding onto the ball for too long? Or are you saying that's what separates him from Tom Brady, 20ms? All Aaron needs to do is get the ball out 0.02 seconds faster on average? Or hell, even 0.22 seconds faster and he'd be the second-fastest in the NFL at getting the ball out. Would you be happy then?

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throw 

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Would he be throwing to the open guy?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Porforis
7 years ago

Would he be throwing to the open guy?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about him not getting the ball out and playing sandlot all the time. I'd be happy to discuss other subjects once we're done discussing your objectively false declaration that Rodgers holds onto the ball way too long (as compared other quarterbacks in the NFL).
nerdmann
7 years ago

I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about him not getting the ball out and playing sandlot all the time. I'd be happy to discuss other subjects once we're done discussing your objectively false declaration that Rodgers holds onto the ball way too long (as compared other quarterbacks in the NFL).

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



It's well known that Rodgers holds on to the ball longer than most. They discuss it on pregame shows as being "his game."

Here's another issue. How does Aaron's habit of holding the ball impact our OL? Wasn't Bakhtiari hurt when he fell and almost did the splits? Help these guys out man. Get the ball out.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Porforis
7 years ago

It's well known that Rodgers holds on to the ball longer than most. They discuss it on pregame shows as being "his game."

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Can I please get you on the record as saying "If Rodgers got rid of the ball 0.07 seconds earlier on average I would stop complaining about Rodgers not getting the ball out fast enough, as he'd be faster than most starters in the league at getting the ball out"? Or at least quantify what "getting the ball out" an acceptable rate actually means? I mean, it's easy taking a position that doesn't need to be beholden to real-world, measurable stimulti or to be able to throw our random tidbits like "it's well known that..." that aren't verifiable or quantifiable.
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
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