PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

The PI non-call. How far past the endline did the moon-rocket pass land?

Originally Posted by: Poppa San 



If Jimmy was standing on the end line, he wouldn't have needed to jump. The ball landed just past the white of the endline. With the amount of contact, it should have been flagged before the ball ever hit the ground.

We got away with one there. The only reason I could see to not call it, was after the initial contact, Jimmy ended up with both arms around the defenders helmet looking like he pulled the defender into him.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

There was no punch... but there might of been an elbow wedged to the throat at the end.

Adams did go down as if he was punched though, and CB Lane's right arm was extended, that's the best I can come up with, for saying a punch was thrown. And then it looked like Lane's left arm sorta coiled-up like it was gonna do something, but at best that's an open hand slap to the back as Lane gets on top of Adams.

[Edited, I believe the ref Dave Parry (who I read called the ejection, is on the sideline to the right (not shown) of these camera angles]

I believe between these two videos you see the whole thing.

Originally Posted by: beast 



In the video I linked, you can see the INT happen, Devante turn and start in pursuit as they go off the screen you can see that they come together right around the 50 yard line, then Devante turns back and engages Lane. The final scuffle ends up around the 35 or so. There would be no reason for Devante to engage Lane unless he was reacting to something. That is why I am wondering if the punch happened around the 50 and Devante goes after Lane in response.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=20668305 

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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

Granted, I only saw the replay once but it seemed extremely straightforward to me - Rodgers was chasing after the defender, another defender is running up from behind and shoves him in the back enough to alter his course. Didn't make a difference in the play in the end but still. Can someone explain this to me?



I mean, he drove his forearm into Adams' face then down to his neck. DEFINITELY shouldn't have been an ejection but I'm not surprised it was a flag.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



The block on Rodgers, one hand was directly on the Nike Swoosh on Rodgers shoulder.

I could agree with an unsportsmanlike on Lane, Devante should have been flagged also. Can't find anything just justify the ejection either.

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beast
7 years ago

There would be no reason for Devante to engage Lane unless he was reacting to something. That is why I am wondering if the punch happened around the 50 and Devante goes after Lane in response.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=20668305 

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 


You're assuming Adams needs a good reason to engage. And Adams' reason could be from a play earlier in the game or one of the previous games. But between are videos, it seems like we have the entire play for Adams and the two engaged in combat and no punch was thrown.

Between your video and my two videos, they show the entire play for Adams... he did not get punched.






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beast
7 years ago

The block on Rodgers, one hand was directly on the Nike Swoosh on Rodgers shoulder.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 


In one angle, it looked like the defender got two hands on Rodgers, one on his shoulder and one on/near his back... but it looked like the push on him was 90+% (and maybe 100% on his shoulder).

So I think the block in the back call was wrong, but I can understand why a Ref could make that mistake.

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beast
7 years ago

Now maybe we can finally let "fail mary" go?

Originally Posted by: Mr_Bumpy 



In someways, this helps, yes. šŸ˜„
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dhazer
7 years ago

You're assuming Adams needs a good reason to engage. And Adams' reason could be from a play earlier in the game or one of the previous games. But between are videos, it seems like we have the entire play for Adams and the two engaged in combat and no punch was thrown.

Between your video and my two videos, they show the entire play for Adams... he did not get punched.





Originally Posted by: beast 



I am with the others and I think it was the elbow to the throat. I said that right away and if you watch the second video you can see his own player trying to pull him off
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be šŸ™‚ (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Dulak
7 years ago

I don't think it was a "punch", but the guy did shove his arm into Adam's neck. That could be what they flagged.
The push into Rodgers back wasn't that much, but it WAS in his back which is a foul.
About time we get some ref "payback".

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I agree with the call on rodgers block in the back - IMO they called that because rodgers could of prevented a TD.

As far as the ejection - regretfully its not necessarily the 1st hit that gets the call its the 2nd. And ya land had his elbow in adams neck.

the endzone no call Ive seen many no calls like that not a big deal.

but glad those calls went the way they did
Barfarn
7 years ago
There were also 2 Seattle false starts that were not called; I don’t get that; there’s a guy who only looks for that! And though Wright’s hit on Rodgers was not late, it was clear Rodgers was giving himself up and Wright put some unnecessary shoulder into his hit; he was trying to injure and could have been flagged. These are in addition to the other uncalled penalties on Seattle already mentioned.

Lane’s behavior 100% warranted ejection. The refs saw this in real time, not slow mo. Adams should have been flagged too, but that only happens if the ref is looking. Usually the ref in his peripheral vision sees two bodies bending in unnatural ways and he looks just in time to see a retaliation.

Here’s what the ref sees: at 3 second in 2nd video Adams is on the ground ā€œon all fours.ā€ Lane jumps on him for no apparent reason and uses his body to drive Adams in the ground and simultaneously uses his elbow/forearm to drive Adams’ head into the ground. Now look at Lane’s move at 8-9 seconds. Lane makes a fist and it makes a swiping motion as it contacts Adams helmet at forehead and Adams’ head turns in direction of swipe. John Wayne never punched a guy on a movie set; but it did look like it live, didn’t it? In real time this could have easily looked like a punch, even though I dont think it was. But, then Lane continues, he just wont freaking stop; he dry humps Adams with his forearm on Adams’ neck for another 5 seconds. This whole thing took 10-11 seconds. If Lane had a bit more time; Adams would have had to go into the pregnancy protocol tent.

A punch or forearm shiver is a 15 yarder; 3 violent moves [or what looked like violent moves in real time] over 10-11 seconds is an easy ejection. The taunting call on Cobb was ridiculous unless the refs discussed having a trigger finger on the flag to quell the bad blood. If this was a concern, and I'd guess it was, Lane had to go to stop any escalation.
Porforis
7 years ago

The taunting call on Cobb was ridiculous unless the refs discussed having a trigger finger on the flag to quell the bad blood. If this was a concern, and I'd guess it was, Lane had to go to stop any escalation.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



It looked like absolutely nothing and stuff that happens on almost every play - I just assume the ref overheard something particularly bad.
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