Preseason Week 1 : The Eagles· Page 5

wpr
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7 years ago

#41

Hundley feels like a career backup. Not bad at all, but average.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

You can make a decent living as a career backup QB. 10 years then retire and become a HS coach.

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#42

You can make a decent living as a career backup QB. 10 years then retire and become a HS coach.

Originally Posted by: wpr

True, but everyone hoping to turn Hundley into a goldmine trade I think will be sadly disappointed. Granted they played against different levels of competition in the game, but it is hard to believe we are gaining much more sticking with Hundley over Callahan.

Maybe I am a bit of a homer for Callahan as he reminds me of a CFL type of QB, but I just find I am more interested in him at the position when he is under centre as opposed to Hundley. The way he plays entertains me more.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#43

Jason Spriggs didn't have a good game. I want to Lenzy Pipkins move up the depth chart a spot. He played great.

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DoddPower
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#44

Hundley sucks.

wpr
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7 years ago

#45

True, but everyone hoping to turn Hundley into a goldmine trade I think will be sadly disappointed. Granted they played against different levels of competition in the game, but it is hard to believe we are gaining much more sticking with Hundley over Callahan.

Maybe I am a bit of a homer for Callahan as he reminds me of a CFL type of QB, but I just find I am more interested in him at the position when he is under centre as opposed to Hundley. The way he plays entertains me more.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

They shouldn't expect to receive very much for Hundley. Teams that are in need a of QB for next year will more than likely look at drafting one. There are 4-5 QBs that are rated 1st round ability. Why give up a draft pick for a QB when you can get one, perhaps one with more ability, and keep all of their picks? Yes he does have a few years experience but his ceiling may not be as high long term.

We shall see. If they trade him they prob won't get much more than a 4th or 5th.

beast
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7 years ago

#46

Originally Posted by: wpr

Well if they're using a 1st round pick on that 1st round QB, then they're losing a draft pick for a QB either way 👅 but also Drew Brees and Kirk Cousins could both be FAs this coming offseason... but if he plays great in preseason/season and flashes a lot, some team that wants someone ready right now might be interested... but I've thought that someone with inside info, or someone wanting to make a bold win now move that would be needed make a big trade for Hundley.

Former Packers GMs (Seahawks/Raiders) don't need a QB, and former Packers Head Coach has a vet and just used a 3rd round pick on a rookie... but if the Saints or Redskins lose their starting QB, they could be in that desperate position... and they have both been willing to make bold moves at times. If the Broncos ever got excited about a QB, Elway is very willing to make bold moves if they think it will help. Also Jets, 49ers and Bills are all rebuilding... though maybe not willing to be bold right now.

One I've looked at possibly is Jaguars, because in 1995 the Jaguars led by Tom Coughlin traded a 3rd and 5th round picks for a Packers QB Mark Brunell (who was selected in the 5th round)... now the Jaguars, led by Tom Coughlin, could be looking for a new starting QB as well.

As for those 1st round QBs... it seems like a number of 1st round QBs have been draft bust... so they're no sure thing either.

Jared Goff
Carson Wentz
Paxton Lynch

Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota

Blake Bortles
Johnny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater

EJ Manuel

Andew Luck
Robert Griffin
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden

Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder

blueleopard
Member

7 years ago

#47

I wouldn't throw the hatchet at Hundley yet. A lot of the passes he threw were dropped.

Let's not be quick to forget that over his rookie season, he finished with a higher rating than any other QB that played in the pre-season. That fact is worth almost nothing, but teams take notice. I'm sure the Browns at least are.

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wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#48

Well if they're using a 1st round pick on that 1st round QB, then they're losing a draft pick for a QB either way 👅 but also Drew Brees and Kirk Cousins could both be FAs this coming offseason... but if he plays great in preseason/season and flashes a lot, some team that wants someone ready right now might be interested... but I've thought that someone with inside info, or someone wanting to make a bold win now move that would be needed make a big trade for Hundley.

Former Packers GMs (Seahawks/Raiders) don't need a QB, and former Packers Head Coach has a vet and just used a 3rd round pick on a rookie... but if the Saints or Redskins lose their starting QB, they could be in that desperate position... and they have both been willing to make bold moves at times. If the Broncos ever got excited about a QB, Elway is very willing to make bold moves if they think it will help. Also Jets, 49ers and Bills are all rebuilding... though maybe not willing to be bold right now.

One I've looked at possibly is Jaguars, because in 1995 the Jaguars led by Tom Coughlin traded a 3rd and 5th round picks for a Packers QB Mark Brunell (who was selected in the 5th round)... now the Jaguars, led by Tom Coughlin, could be looking for a new starting QB as well.

As for those 1st round QBs... it seems like a number of 1st round QBs have been draft bust... so they're no sure thing either.

Jared Goff
Carson Wentz
Paxton Lynch

Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota

Blake Bortles
Johnny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater

EJ Manuel

Andew Luck
Robert Griffin
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden

Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder

Originally Posted by: beast

*SIGH*

I didn't think I would need to spell everything out. That's my fault. The major difference between trading a draft pick for Hundley and using it to get a 2018 rookie is control. If another team trades for Hundley they will have one year of control vs 5 years with a new kid. Add to that the price. The upcoming drafted kids will have a rookie contract. Hundley will be in his second contract. Since he hasn't done anything he won't get Brady-Rodgers numbers but he will get starting QB money.

There is nothing like going back 22 years to prove ones point. 🤣 It worked so well it has been duplicated thousands of times since then. Oh wait- nm.

I never ever ever implied drafting one of these college kids would be a sure thing. Just like trading for Hundley will not be a sure thing either.

steveishere
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#49

I finally got to watch the game. I thought Reggie Gilbert looked like the best player on the field when he was out there. On that looong drive when everyone was gassed he didn't dog a single snap, he's really trying to make the team.

Montgomery/Williams just might make a really good dual threat group at RB. Who lines up behind them is up for grabs.

I like McCaffrey at WR and that Clark guy too. I don't see how we cut Davis if he keeps returning like that. Id be tempted to IR Dupre and give him a redshirt because I like him too. Janis even ran a decent route and caught a ball over his shoulder. That's going to be a fun battle to watch the next 3 games.

Hundley and Callahan looked pretty good though I don't love how often Callahan has room to throw and still runs around anyways. They both missed on a couple throws they should have had and Hundley didn't get any favors from WRs as far as drops. Callahan had the best throw overall but Hundley put together better drives. Callahan IMO still has a ways to go if he planned to try and take the top backup job away.

Jones/King need a little work but I like how both are willing to play physical and hit people and we won't have to worry about them being physically mismatched which has been a huge problem on D for us lately. I liked Hawkins too, him and a couple other guys missed tackles but he was on the WRs pocket every time they threw at him and contested everything. Pipkins threw his hat in the ring too for a roster spot.

Lowry and Clark both look good, those 2 with Daniels may give us a legit D-Line with a decent vet in RJF as a back up and a promising rookie in Adams and maybe Price as well on the roster.

beast
Select Member

7 years ago

#50

One I've looked at possibly is Jaguars, because in 1995 the Jaguars led by Tom Coughlin traded a 3rd and 5th round picks for a Packers QB Mark Brunell (who was selected in the 5th round)... now the Jaguars, led by Tom Coughlin, could be looking for a new starting QB as well.

Originally Posted by: beast

There is nothing like going back 22 years to prove ones point. 🤣 It worked so well it has been duplicated thousands of times since then. Oh wait- nm.

Originally Posted by: wpr

It's not about proving a point in history, it's that the Jags and put in a similar position and noticing that they seem to be in a real bad spot at the position... as Bortles has been looking horrible... and the Jaguars could be interesting in giving someone else a shot, as the right price.

And the Jaguars owner has started to get more and more upset, and has gotten a bit into win soon / win now angry mode... and their current GM has been their since 2013... could be a bit on the hot seat.

So I think they clearly could be interested in a QB with potential... though Hundley hasn't really had a great showing in a little while... but if it plays very well the rest of the preseason some might be interested in checking him out. Maybe with some sort of conditional draft pick, where if he starts so many games or something.

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There’s another important reason to park Bortles’ butt on the bench. With more than $18 million in injury-guaranteed salary due for 2018, the Jaguars may want to do with Bortles what Washington did with Robert Griffin III in 2015, putting him in bubble wrap and ensuring that he’ll be healthy enough to pass a physical (and be cut) before his 2018 pay becomes fully guaranteed.

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