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GREEN BAY, Wis. – The Green Bay Packers’ oldest cornerback is 24 years old. In fact, they’re all 24 years old; And none of them has more than two …

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If this off season doesn't beg for Teddy to dip into the FA waters nothing does.

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I think when you look at the young men that you just referred to, they did a lot of good things in their first year,” Packers coach Mike McCarthy said shortly after the season. “We have a long history here in the last 11 years of first-year players making a big jump in their second year, so you have to factor that into those types of decisions.



There have been as many or more players that Mike has complained about who DIDN'T make that big step up. There are no guarantees. Other than wishing and hoping things some how magically turn out all right what is your plan Coach?

Obviously Gunter gave us the most consistent play in his time, and he deserves a lot of credit for that



And just as obvious was that Gunter was woefully over matched when he had to face true #1 WRs. Even when he had help over the top. Perhaps he will get better next year. But where is it in writing? Just because this is the Green Bay Packers doesn't mean everything is going to automatically turn out right.
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8 years ago
You're right. If there ever was a time to go out and get a Woodson, this is the time. Aaron is aging, the cupboard is bare at CB or at least full of inferior product. No Shields who was our one true good CB. The whole league can see we're so weak at CB.

If Ted is Ted he'll just draft a 1st round CB, add a late round pick and a few UDFA's and call it a day. If he does what needs to be done, he will actually find us someone who is good right now who can help us right away. There was talk Ted wanted Revis a few years back after we let Tramon go. However, of course, he didn't get it done. He made his lowball offer that was very unlikely to be accepted to say that he tried. Hearing the Packers speak that we just need to give Randall and Rollins time is incredibly dangerous and foolish. If we let Hayward go because of his availability issues, what exactly do we have with Randall and Rollins? Both are constantly banged up and performing poorly. We can't count on oft injured underperformers. Hope is great. A solution is much better.

A defensive reach in Round 1 will be crippling to this franchise, if we simply choose to stay out of FA. We're already paying the price for drafts that don't have enough impact players. We paid last year for Rollins and Randall not developing at all.

I had high hopes for Rollins but not so much for Randall considering he was a S trying to play CB at the NFL level. That is a rare thing and it doesn't work that's why it's rare. Randall may never ever get his confidence back after the torching he took all last year. Letting guys put up huge games vs. him that didn't do much vs. anyone else can't be good for how he thinks of himself.

Gunter is NOT a solution of any kind other than a bad one. I was hopeful for him after some preseason success but when the lights came on for real he was a shadow of what was hoped for.

Our CB situation is scary bad right now. Randall, Rollins, Gunter, Hawkins and Herb Waters? That reads like a UDFA list you'd bring to TC in hopes you might find a 5th CB. We have guys like Goodson and Dorleant on IR. Honestly, call me critical but our DB's are incredibly bad. We will see what our GM does to "fix" this. Everyone should be incredibly focused on this position to see what comes out over the next few months. Status quo is not going to cut it this year.


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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


musccy
8 years ago
I'm still cautiously optimistic Rollins and Randall's drop off was due to what happened to Adams in '15.

That said, I agree we're still woefully thin and inexperienced to the point that drafting alone won't fix this.
TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago
I think we have to use the money we would of spent on Sam on a FA CB. That being said this draft is supposed to be deep at the CB position. I do think we should draft at least 1 CB. It would be nice if we can find a guy who could also be on the KR if we don't resign Hyde.
8 years ago

I think we have to use the money we would of spent on Sam on a FA CB. That being said this draft is supposed to be deep at the CB position. I do think we should draft at least 1 CB. It would be nice if we can find a guy who could also be on the KR if we don't resign Hyde.

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I would LOVE if we drafted a high upside guy with some speed an athleticism at the end of the 1st or 2nd at DB along with bringing in some sort of veteran presence. That puts the other guys on notice and I think will lead to a better overall product.

I don't think Rollins and Randall are busts yet by any means. But they gotta show up next year as at least solid Nickel/Dime Players or they'll be on their way out.
nerdmann
8 years ago

I would LOVE if we drafted a high upside guy with some speed an athleticism at the end of the 1st or 2nd at DB along with bringing in some sort of veteran presence. That puts the other guys on notice and I think will lead to a better overall product.

I don't think Rollins and Randall are busts yet by any means. But they gotta show up next year as at least solid Nickel/Dime Players or they'll be on their way out.

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WE need a shut down guy, but we also need an edge rusher.
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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
With losing/cutting Sam, now is the perfect time to go after a CB, but not as a rental, go after somebody as your future. I would have no problem giving some 26-27 year old CB 11-12 million a year to come in and be our #1 for the next 4 years.

Let Randall and Rollins fight and earn their spots.
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