mojaveson
7 years ago
The Patriots just opened up as a 3 point favorite. I'd rather see Atlanta win because they've never won a Super Bowl. But my gut tells me it will be Bellicheat and Brady holding the trophy...yet again.
Winners never quit and quitters never win. - Vince Lombardi
Cheesey
7 years ago
I hope the Falcons win. Mostly because the Patriot's past known transgressions. (CHEATING)
They will do ANYTHING to win. Even if it's against the rules.
To me, that is just as bad as the baseball players that used PED's to hit home runs.
Cheaters are cheaters, and should not be allowed to prosper for their cheating.
To me, that tarnishes EVERYTHING they have accomplished. They should have super bowl wins taken away each time they are caught cheating in a season. That's the ONLY way you can stop it. A lost draft pick, or big fine, does nothing to stop it. They more then make up for ANY of that with revenue from their "win".
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago
The Patriots were proven guilty of what cheating? The video taping thing that numerous teams came saying they had done something similar or we talking about the air pressure in footballs being (allegedly) low due to human interference? A ball that ALL 22 men on the field used, thus, no real competitive advantage even IF someone were to deflate or over inflate a football.

What does every team want? Home field advantage! Why? Noise, crowd noise.

Why did NFL fine the Falcons $350,000 and lose their fifth-round selection in the 2016 NFL Draft??

What were the Falcons recently found GUILTY of doing?

ILLEGALLY PIPING IN NOISE!!!

So, ya want to cry "cheaters"?!? Falcons are the cheaters. We don't go crazy over it because the Falcons are not perennial WINNERS! The Patriots are, thus, we must all attack the one on top. I love our society. Screw facts, lets just run with emotionally


Hmm, sorry about, apparently I'm still salty over the Packers not being in the Super Bowl. Carry on folks, I step away.


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Cheesey
7 years ago
OK.....go after and deal with ANY team caught cheating. Even if it's the Packers. The only way to stop it is as I said, to make the penalty fit the crime.
Cheat, get caught, lose any championship you "earned" that year.
Follow the rules or face some actual consequences!
Not too hard to understand.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago
I hope the game is an enjoyable watch for those who care. We're not part of the show so I'm not even sure I'll watch the game.

Shanahan O vs. Belichick D should be fun.

Patriots O vs. Atlanta's D should be a massacre similar to what Atlanta did to us. We'll see then what we should've done to Atlanta.

Hard not liking the Pats in this one. I can see this one way out of hand in favor of the Patriots.


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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


mojaveson
7 years ago

The Patriots were proven guilty of what cheating? The video taping thing that numerous teams came saying they had done something similar or we talking about the air pressure in footballs being (allegedly) low due to human interference? A ball that ALL 22 men on the field used, thus, no real competitive advantage even IF someone were to deflate or over inflate a football.

What does every team want? Home field advantage! Why? Noise, crowd noise.

Why did NFL fine the Falcons $350,000 and lose their fifth-round selection in the 2016 NFL Draft??

What were the Falcons recently found GUILTY of doing?

ILLEGALLY PIPING IN NOISE!!!

So, ya want to cry "cheaters"?!? Falcons are the cheaters. We don't go crazy over it because the Falcons are not perennial WINNERS! The Patriots are, thus, we must all attack the one on top. I love our society. Screw facts, lets just run with emotionally


Hmm, sorry about, apparently I'm still salty over the Packers not being in the Super Bowl. Carry on folks, I step away.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



It's because the Patriots didn't cooperate at first when they got caught. Arrogance is why everybody remembers the Patriots transgressions (Spygate). Belichick can be a real jerk!
Winners never quit and quitters never win. - Vince Lombardi
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

It's because the Patriots didn't cooperate at first when they got caught. Arrogance is why everybody remembers the Patriots transgressions (Spygate). Belichick can be a real jerk!

Originally Posted by: mojaveson 



Why? Because Tom Brady destroys his phone when purchasing a new one? Any celebrity or person with sensitive data SHOULD do that! That's the thing the media doesn't tell us is that phones when re-purposed or stolen can have the data recovered even if you deleted it. Yeah, crazy thought isn't it? That's why businesses drill holes into their hard drives.

I'm sure ole Tommy has a few pictures of his super model wife on his phone he'd rather not risk the chance of it being leaked publicly. Lets not think about that and just accuse people of cheating. That's morally acceptable, right?



OK.....go after and deal with ANY team caught cheating. Even if it's the Packers. The only way to stop it is as I said, to make the penalty fit the crime.
Cheat, get caught, lose any championship you "earned" that year.
Follow the rules or face some actual consequences!
Not too hard to understand.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Exactly, its not hard to understand and yet we have some folks who let the media mislead them and pile onto the Patriots while teams like the Falcons get off the hook. The Falcons ARE the cheaters, not the Patriots. Its not too hard to understand.





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mojaveson
7 years ago

Why? Because Tom Brady destroys his phone when purchasing a new one? Any celebrity or person with sensitive data SHOULD do that! That's the thing the media doesn't tell us is that phones when re-purposed or stolen can have the data recovered even if you deleted it. Yeah, crazy thought isn't it? That's why businesses drill holes into their hard drives.

I'm sure ole Tommy has a few pictures of his super model wife on his phone he'd rather not risk the chance of it being leaked publicly. Lets not think about that and just accuse people of cheating. That's morally acceptable, right?





Exactly, its not hard to understand and yet we have some folks who let the media mislead them and pile onto the Patriots while teams like the Falcons get off the hook. The Falcons ARE the cheaters, not the Patriots. Its not too hard to understand.




Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Spygate had to do with the Patriots videotaping the Jets defensive coaching signals. The Brady thing is a different issue and happened several years later. Read that Wikipedia link I posted earlier.
Winners never quit and quitters never win. - Vince Lombardi
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
At this point, I don't have any desire to watch the game. Usually I can find a player I like on one of the teams to get behind but haven't found one this year. Unless I go to some SuperBowl party I might not even watch. I can't even get interested in Commercials anymore.

I might just go grocery shopping because the stores will all be empty.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Spygate had to do with the Patriots videotaping the Jets defensive coaching signals. The Brady thing is a different issue and happened several years later. Read that Wikipedia link I posted earlier.

Originally Posted by: mojaveson 



You're not going to manipulate me. I had my ass in this mess very deep while it was going on and paid attention to the facts, not the headlines. You can believe whatever you want. You claim they are cheaters. I say it's bullshit to call them cheaters. We don't agree. It's fine. We cool homie.
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