Barfarn
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8 years ago
Just before his HOF pass to Cook, much has been said about how Rodgers held onto the ball on that sack and rightly so. Grip and grip strength is something Rodgers works on diligently as part of his fastidious preparation.

But my question is this: How could Rodgers not know where the second safety was?

This is a guy who knows where the D players are as they substitute. Forget the stats, no QB has ever approached Rodgers’ ability as it pertains to the cerebral part of QB play. Given his decent throwing and scrambling abilities it is in the execution of his cerebral football acumen brilliance that allows Rodgers to stand alone as the unequivocal QB GOAT. His fastidious film prep and ability to reads defenses and ability to anticipate what a D is doing is like no other. It is his MENTAL fastidious [look that word up] attention to detail that provides for his accuracy. On the last throw he sets 2 times on scramble; watch this play in slowmo Rodgers’ somehow on the run arranges his body in perfect throwing form on the throw to Cook. This is why the throw seems so unbelievable because all other QBs throw on the run; Rodgers throw standing still in the pocket while he’s moving. EVERYTHING that makes Rodgers great emanates from his fastidious mental preparation.

But, on this play, he doesn’t know where the 2nd safety is. It is inexplicable. Hundley and Callahan wouldn’t have made that Cook throw; but they would have at least known where that 2nd safety was.

Monty was set to his right; Rodgers could have moved Monty to left side, because Bak and Taylor were outnumbered or if Rodgers’ knows Dallas’ tendency to threaten blitz and drop the safety he at least has to account for dropping back, or if the safety comes Rodgers needs to roll right.

The single thing that separates good crunch time players from not so, in any sport is the ability to not change the approach taken when it is not crunch time. If Mason’s thinking is about the moment instead of the mechanics of his job; his accuracy will drop precipitously.

After the game Wilde asked Rodgers about his emotions on final drive; Rodgers said, "I was thinking about on that last drive just thinking about my breathing and trying to steady that," Rodgers said. "I felt good. I felt very calm, and I was very positive in the huddle and felt like we were going to go down and score."

This is why Aaron grabs for the collar in big moments; he changes his approach at crunch time. He has to, among other things, work to control his breathing; he’s thinking of this instead of locating the 2nd safety. This is why the 1st pick in 391 passes was thrown at the time it was. This is why the drive to end the game resulted in a FG instead of a run out the clock score. This is why the D has been required to close out all but 2 of Rodgers’ playoff wins. And the D closed out this one, by stopping Dallas for FG and leaving time on the clock.

This also provides the answer to the question of another thread: Belichek would have less rings if Rodgers was his QB [even though Rodgers is better than Brady].
uffda udfa
8 years ago
This is a Lambeau LEAP.

A guy working on his breathing doesn't mean he's not aware of what's going on. He could've just as easily had that happen during the 2nd quarter of any regular season game.
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DoddPower
8 years ago
What player doesn't "choke" occasionally on some plays here and there? These aren't gods we are talking about. He is, ultimately, just another guy. He just happens to be very very good at football.
luigis
8 years ago
I think that was a brilliant post.
You have to wonder why Rodgers has been so shaky in the 4th quarter in his career, it is clear something happens, something is different. While he can and will make incredible plays I agree he also loses awareness, he plays in a blur.


Luis
uffda udfa
8 years ago
This is a most interesting topic. The guy pulls off one of the most incredible plays in playoff history and he choked?

To me, had he not controlled his breathing and we didn't get into range I could see your point. Or.. are you saying he choked on one play and not the next?
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luigis
8 years ago

This is a most interesting topic. The guy pulls off one of the most incredible plays in playoff history and he choked?

To me, had he not controlled his breathing and we didn't get into range I could see your point. Or.. are you saying he choked on one play and not the next?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Rodgers wasn't himself since Heath's first interception.
It was clear to me that play got him unfocused.

Yes, he did was brilliant in the last play the one that counted the most but check his throws from the interception and you will see how he changed.

Luis
uffda udfa
8 years ago

Rodgers wasn't himself since Heath's first interception.
It was clear to me that play got him unfocused.

Yes, he did was brilliant in the last play the one that counted the most but check his throws from the interception and you will see how he changed.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



He was like that last year after he threw his first pick vs. STL. He was not the same the rest of the season. Not so sure about him being that off. Cook dropped one and another before that was barely deflected going off his helmet.

Let's hope he's not in a downward spiral now. I think the last throw got back whatever he lost in the bad INT to Heath. The non interception was an even worse throw but I think he was trying to throw it away.

If Rodgers gets off his game due to the moment being too big I can't wait to see how Ryan reacts.
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mi_keys
8 years ago

You have to wonder why Rodgers has been so shaky in the 4th quarter in his career

Originally Posted by: luigis 



Rodgers has a career 102.6 qb rating and an Adjusted Yards / Attempt of 8.41 in the fourth quarter. Both compare similarly to overall production levels and rank among the best in NFL history.



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beast
8 years ago
Where exactly does Rodgers admit to choking? ... because it seems like the the subject line choked when it came to finding evidence of Rodgers admitting that he choked.

As to the question of why did that blitzer fool Rodgers so easily ... I read on one of Uffda's links to a Cowboys blog, one Cowboys fan suggested that blitzer was successful because they rarely blitz him and he disguise it very well, while hammering their normal blitzing DB was clearly showing when he was going to blitz through out the game, tipping it away before the snap.

Sounds like a change up caught Rodgers off guard more than a choke.
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uffda udfa
8 years ago

Where exactly does Rodgers admit to choking? ... because it seems like the the subject line choked when it came to finding evidence of Rodgers admitting that he choked.

As to the question of why did that blitzer fool Rodgers so easily ... I read on one of Uffda's links to a Cowboys blog, one Cowboys fan suggested that blitzer was successful because they rarely blitz him and he disguise it very well, while hammering their normal blitzing DB was clearly showing when he was going to blitz through out the game, tipping it away before the snap.

Sounds like a change up caught Rodgers off guard more than a choke.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I read that Aaron thought they had it blocked on the backside. Sounds more like an issue of broken trust than any form of choke. Wasting time worrying if Jeff freaking Heath got free vs. keeping your eyes down field to make a play as time is running out seems reasonable to me. I gotta believe he knew it was possible he might get hit like that or he would've coughed it up like he did last time vs these guys.

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