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MintBaconDrivel
7 years ago
Do you agree?

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They are brilliant and epic, incredible and sublime, the best and the brightest in a profession with the shortest of shelf lives. Bodies are mangled and muscles forever ache when you get in their line of work, which makes their accomplishments that much more surreal.

Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers are the kings of the quarterback hill now, the gold standard for the most important position in team sports. They will meet in Super Bowl LI in a few weeks if the Patriots and Packers take care of business in their conference championship games this weekend.

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7 years ago
Yep.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
Not necessarily. It is just a likely that he would have won less. Putting a great HC and a great QB together doesn't guarantee they will win. One of the best coaches of all time Shula, and one of the best QB of all time Marino, only went to one SB and lost over a 13 year span. One of the main reasons Belicheck and Brady have had success is because Brady knows his limits and does what Belicheck wants him to do and plays within the plan for that year. Brady has no problem living off the check down, where Aaron would rather break the pocket extend the play and look for something downfield. it is quite possible that Aaron and Belicheck never would have gotten along.
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sschind
7 years ago

Do you agree?

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel 



nope

uffda udfa
7 years ago
I think this is a very interesting question and the responses are actually answering more than just the original question.

The Packers fan crowd that believes that what we've accomplished with Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers is excellent is never going to answer that question in the affirmative. Saying YES to that question would open the door to the idea that maybe just maybe we don't have it so great here and should've had it better. That possibility is too much to allow so the answer has to be NO even if that's not what one really feels as it answers more our situation than NE's.

For me, I have no idea. Nobody ever knows how certain combos are going to workout in reality. On paper, I would agree. Aaron is superior to Brady and that org is superior to ours. Imagine a very mobile version of Brady in their O...that's what Rodgers would bring to them. Belichick is not an offensive minded guy so hard to say exactly how that would've worked but assuming the same OC's as Brady I'm sure it would've most likely been more lethal than it is with Tom. Aaron Rodgers with their D vs. the ones he's suffered with. Aaron with Gronk, Bennett, Hernandez instead of RR and some kid from Maine? Aaron in an org that will go out and get him pieces he needs to win instead of thrusting Geronimo's on him? Instead he gets Michael Floyd's, Randy Moss, etc? Very very hard to say on paper, if not impossible, that it wouldn't have been better for NE with Aaron.




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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


DoddPower
7 years ago
Who cares. I'm more interested in wondering how many Super Bowls could Rodgers win if he actually had a consistently "good" or better defense. Most of these defenses he's had to live with are pathetic, and it's highly unfortunate.
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