uffda udfa
7 years ago
That's because GB brass was sick of Mr "my shyt don't stink" - made it clear he'd learn IF trade rumblings are factual the same day as everyone else; meaning he'd have no say on where he'd go IF things didn't IMMEDIATELY lose that shitee attitude & mistreatment of teammates. It wasn't a gripe session like Rodgers pressers. It was put all on Rodgers to make all the changes. And it worked out quite nicely w/Rodgers steppin' n fetchin' & w/teammates being very responsive. Big difference even w/ his Rodgers actually smiling in interviews straight, unconditional praise of teammates, walking up & down the sidelines, praising, rallying the troops which is "I can't believe my eyes" unheard of w/Rodgers. Too bad McAdoo/NYG brass don't have the guts to give OB a triple dose of what GB gave Rodgers.

*** Saw this comment posted on a Packers story on NFL.com... Not sure there's a shred of truth but it makes as much sense as anything I've read.
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mi_keys
7 years ago
Personally, I suspect Rodgers secretly started eating cheese again mid-way through the season and his powers returned shortly thereafter.
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DoddPower
7 years ago

Personally, I suspect Rodgers secretly started eating cheese again mid-way through the season and his powers returned shortly thereafter.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



As good of theory as anything else we can speculate on. Apparently Rodgers isn't allowed to simply suck for a period of time.
Barfarn
7 years ago
Of course, this was never about simply going through some sort of slump.

There was some sort of paradigmatic shift happening: He just decided he wasn't going to execute the game plan, it was about sedition. Then he began to publicly toss his coach, team and individual players under the bus and who knows what he was doing in the lockerroom. Plus, there was turmoil in his personal life.

And Porforis still doesn't get it, he said in a post on Geronimo's pot that Geronimo was dumb. But, when you're all keyed up about trying to please trust boy, what can ya do? Ya go out to your car and spark a couple of stoggy spliffs. Rodgers is 100% responsible for Geronimo's problems [😂 😂 😂 [Porforis, just havin' some fun].

Outside coercion rarely motivates people to do right; it usually serves to entrench people and I think Rodgers is a stubborn SOB. I dont think threats from 1265 prompted an attitude for the better; I'd expect the opposite. His improvement in play corresponded with being universally excoriated by sports writers, former teammates and Dunne's article had to serve as a public embarrassment. I think it's causal, I think that is what did it.

And after 2 years of no turnaround, I'm not sure he'd have gotten a third, which might have been contingent on their perception of Hundley's ability to win a SB. I also wondered if Dunne's article was prompted by 1265 to prevent any Favre-like PR hit. Someone told Dunne where the bodies were buried.

As Doppelganger's #1 critic; I am satisfied to enamored with Aaron's play. His improved play, and I suspect attitude, has sparked the entire team. He said he had to play better at halftime of NY game, even though that hail mary was HOF stuff. This signals another paradigmatic shift back to Rodgers.
Laser Gunns
7 years ago
A large portion of our problems are from 3 things.

1 - Long developing plays Without a dump off option

2 - Rodgers ignoring underneath targets, which bites us as often as it helps.

3 - lack of slants, crossing routes, drags etc.. why we run so many plays that don't present a target between the numbers >20 yards is wacky.

They work in our favor sometimes, but there are also long stretches where doing these 3 things could really help the struggling offense.

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Porforis
7 years ago
Like with everything else in life, multiple factors, both internal and external.

1. He became more controlled and relaxed in the pocket when scrambling. Look at him through the losing streak once protection breaks down and he looks frantic. During the winning streak, his eyes are consistently downfield and he seems a lot more controlled.
2. Receivers are getting open more consistently - Adams in particular has really kicked it up a notch, Cook is starting to become a factor, and Jordy's been looking like Jordy again. Playcalling might have an impact here too, as well as...
3. The success of Montgomery has meant that teams can't just drop 6-7 back and get coverage sacks all the time. More safeties playing up which opens up a lot in the passing game. During the losing streak we did not have a credible run game that teams needed to respect

The one thing that always annoys me is comments about Rodgers' mechanics. Yes, he has an unorthadox release. But the bottom line is, he can and does have accuracy and power using non-standard throwing motions. Yeah, I get that if he's missing open receivers (like earlier in the season), some of that can come into question, but the bottom line is that it's worked for the vast majority of his career.
nerdmann
7 years ago
Aaron pulled his head out of his ass. But he reverts back occasionally, like in the first quarter this past week.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
Whether it was McCarthy, Rodgers or both. The team quit looking as much for the big play and started taking more what was given to them. More in rhythm short routes. Also had a better run game and return of Cook neither of which hurts.
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7 years ago
I was going to start a new topic but decided to begin here as it has some relevance to this discussion. We can separate it if needed.

I had WSCR on in my car a couple of hours ago. They were interviewing James Lofton. Part of the discussion was how the NFL is different today from when he first came out.

One of the things he talked about was the WR route tree. In 1977 the route tree had 10 routes. A few weeks ago he was looking at one (I forgot which California team he said. ) They had 54 routes on their tree. He was stunned.

Using that in this discussion - there is no way for the QB be it Aaron or the good Cutler or anyone else not named Brady 😛 to miss preseason games and go half speed in TC and then be able be in sync with his receivers. There are too many options. Even at mid season they still had things to work on.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

I was going to start a new topic but decided to begin here as it has some relevance to this discussion. We can separate it if needed.

I had WSCR on in my car a couple of hours ago. They were interviewing James Lofton. Part of the discussion was how the NFL is different today from when he first came out.

One of the things he talked about was the WR route tree. In 1977 the route tree had 10 routes. A few weeks ago he was looking at one (I forgot which California team he said. ) They had 54 routes on their tree. He was stunned.

Using that in this discussion - there is no way for the QB be it Aaron or the good Cutler or anyone else not named Brady 😛 to miss preseason games and go half speed in TC and then be able be in sync with his receivers. There are too many options. Even at mid season they still had things to work on.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I think the timing is easier these days because QBs are under center so much less. they don't need to time the Qbs 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th steps. It is basically just progression through the windows of a play. I have a feeling those 54 routes include a lot of duplication of the same routes.
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