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8 years ago

GREEN BAY — Packers LT David Bakhtiari and S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix have been named second-team All-Pro, as determined by a vote of 50 media members of the Associated Press.



http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-daily-news-story/article-1/Clinton-Dix-Bakhtiari-named-to-AP-All-Pro-team/7d069ca2-d62a-4e00-9542-e6cb2dd50442#ixzz4V1EJbYNW 

Congrats to Bakhtiari and Ha Ha. First pro bowls and all-pro selections this year.
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yooperfan
8 years ago
I never considered being "second team" being all that great.
luigis
8 years ago
Now I want to know what the haters are going to say....

Say something Bakthiari haters!

😁
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beast
8 years ago

I never considered being "second team" being all that great.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



I'm not 100% positive on this, but I think second team LT is like first team in years past... as this is the first year they broke it down between LT and RT... in years past I believe they would simply pick two LTs to be first team.

Also Rodgers is 3rd team or worse and we knew he's not that great either...(sarcasm)



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mi_keys
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8 years ago

I never considered being "second team" being all that great.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



It means the AP voted Bakhtiari as the second best left tackle in football this year and Ha Ha as the third or fourth best safety. Tom Brady was second team this year. Same with Odell Beckham, David Johnson, and Mike Evans.
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steveishere
8 years ago

It means the AP voted Bakhtiari as the second best left tackle in football this year and Ha Ha as the third or fourth best safety. Tom Brady was second team this year. Same with Odell Beckham, David Johnson, and Mike Evans.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



Not really, it just means he got 2nd most votes for 1st team. They don't even vote for a 2nd team. That's why you sometimes see big name guys who missed like half a season or played like crap make 2nd team all-pro, the writers didn't know who to pick so they went with a big name guy without doing their homework.
beast
8 years ago

Not really, it just means he got 2nd most votes for 1st team. They don't even vote for a 2nd team. That's why you sometimes see big name guys who missed like half a season or played like crap make 2nd team all-pro, the writers didn't know who to pick so they went with a big name guy without doing their homework.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I think that in some cases could be a great point... but in the world of LTs, Bak is a very small name... he's a 4th round pick, who looks like an OG and even a number of Packers fans wanted to move him to OG not that long ago. The fact the Bak got the second most first place votes is a big deal.

Notice how most the other Packers star players aren't even listed. They got even less 1st place votes.
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mi_keys
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8 years ago

Not really, it just means he got 2nd most votes for 1st team. They don't even vote for a 2nd team. That's why you sometimes see big name guys who missed like half a season or played like crap make 2nd team all-pro, the writers didn't know who to pick so they went with a big name guy without doing their homework.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I know they don't vote for a separate second team but, to me, getting the second most votes for first team is being voted second best. Semantics really.

Agreed on the AP voters not always knowing what they're talking about. Same as the pro bowl. Sometimes they are just wrong. But I think Bakhtiari in particular deserved the recognition this year. Not like that year Jeff Saturday played for the Pack and got the pro bowl nod, he was awful that year.
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steveishere
8 years ago

I know they don't vote for a separate second team but, to me, getting the second most votes for first team is being voted second best. Semantics really.

Agreed on the AP voters not always knowing what they're talking about. Same as the pro bowl. Sometimes they are just wrong. But I think Bakhtiari in particular deserved the recognition this year. Not like that year Jeff Saturday played for the Pack and got the pro bowl nod, he was awful that year.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



I'm not saying he doesn't deserve recognition because he was great this year but I just agree with Yooper that 2nd team all-pro doesn't really mean much since if they actually voted for a 2nd team a lot of the guys who voted the 1st team all-pro may have voted for someone else.
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