hardrocker950
8 years ago
The quote is "I think we can run the table."

He didn't say "I think we can run the table through the regular season."

I don't think I need to elaborate.
Porforis
8 years ago
None of us would be talking about this if the media weren't constantly looking for a story because there's 24/7 NFL coverage they need to fill up with SOMETHING. Nor would Rodgers have said this to a reporter.

Bottom line: Rodgers didn't know anything we didn't. He made a bold prediction and could have looked like a complete asshat, but he elevated his game and did his part and the rest of the team for the most part did the same. Which translates into wins.

What Rodgers understands and a lot of fans on this website can't seem to truly wrap their brains around, is that it's difficult to post a winning record in the NFL. Yes, we have Aaron Rodgers and various weapons on offense, which is why we've consistently posted winning seasons in the regular season. What's even more difficult than consistent success in the regular season which every team but the Patriots would kill to have, is consistent success in the postseason. Which again, seems to be an expectation of fans on this site. Now, I'm not saying that it shouldn't be a letdown if the Packers don't at least MAKE the super bowl. Much less lose games in the fashion we have in recent history, which is quite frankly embarassing. Where reason gives way to lunacy is the mindset that simply having Aaron Rodgers means this team is a joke because it's not making the super bowl every 3 years. Fuck, the Patriots have been there 3 times in the last 10 years and won it once.

Spoiler alert, we've won the super bowl once in the last 10 years. And I find the concept absurd that certain individuals would not be constantly bellyaching about the Packers wasting Aaron's talent/other talent on the team had the Packers scored 1 more point in regulation versus the Giants in 2006 and 1 more point versus the Seahawks in regulation in 2014, and then gone on to lost the super bowl. Because the Patriots are the gold standard for what everyone expects a championship team to be. So by your own standards, the Packers are 1 point in 2 games away from equaling the Patriots postseason success over the last 10 years. Which is apparently the difference between cream of the crop and a complete and utter failure. I understand the functional difference those points make, but it can seem ludicrous to others that this is what separates utter failure and being top of the line over such a long time period.
uffda udfa
8 years ago

My goodness, the self-righteous, butthurt responses to the OP's screeds are far more obnoxious than the rants themselves. Is this really just some sort of echo chamber or safe space for you people? No wonder the volume of posts has declined so precipitously over the years. People get tired of the intolerance for dissent. Nerdmann is as far from Pollyanna positive as anyone is allowed to stray; anything more negative gets quickly shouted down, loyalty and fanhood get questioned, and buckets of tar and feathers gets brandished. It's boring and it's suffocating.

Maybe OP's tone was excessively strident, but his question strikes me as perfectly reasonable. He isn't peddling a conspiracy theory as you so uncharitably insist.

I swear, if I were an outsider, I'd say the trolls were the howling jackals ganging up on this dude in every thread to which he contributes.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Thank you. I don't wear a safety pin but it's pretty clear the majority here does. There is no reason to go off on me but I truly believe that I don't enable the mentality that looks for fun and feel good above everything else. I celebrate a TD like anyone else because that's something to celebrate. I criticize the D, because that's something to criticize. I question the moves of Ted Thompson in letting Hayward go in favor of failed high picks Randall and Rollins. There is nothing I've typed here in the last few days that isn't perfectly reasonable. However, it is dissent in the strongest form and the stalwarts are fighting vigorously for the status quo. Must be loving having Dakota's work schedule the way it is. The truth divides and it's not much more clear than it is right here. I have no doubt this forum has seen a decline like a lot of Packers forums because of this very thing. It rejects dissenters and becomes a calcified buddy club which emboldens further the rejection of different ideas. Strength in numbers.

Aaron knows he ain't facing cupcakes so there is no confidence to make any proclamations. Go look at the schedule following the R E L A X statement and we know the one that followed RUN THE TABLE. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Hardly bold or Namath-esque. I would've liked to read...the table ain't ran yet, indicating that there was more work to do. He was asked specifically about his recent boldness and he offered a turtle in the shell response. There was no MM styled going to Seattle to kick ass. That truly leads me to believe he knows their odds are poor of doing much in the playoffs, but that's just me. No conspiracy just what I think.
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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
Why give Good teams more bulletin board material.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Porforis
8 years ago

Thank you. I don't wear a safety pin but it's pretty clear the majority here does. There is no reason to go off on me but I truly believe that I don't enable the mentality that looks for fun and feel good above everything else. I celebrate a TD like anyone else because that's something to celebrate. I criticize the D, because that's something to criticize. I question the moves of Ted Thompson in letting Hayward go in favor of failed high picks Randall and Rollins. There is nothing I've typed here in the last few days that isn't perfectly reasonable. However, it is dissent in the strongest form and the stalwarts are fighting vigorously for the status quo. Must be loving having Dakota's work schedule the way it is. The truth divides and it's not much more clear than it is right here. I have no doubt this forum has seen a decline like a lot of Packers forums because of this very thing. It rejects dissenters and becomes a calcified buddy club which emboldens further the rejection of different ideas. Strength in numbers.

Aaron knows he ain't facing cupcakes so there is no confidence to make any proclamations. Go look at the schedule following the R E L A X statement and we know the one that followed RUN THE TABLE. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Hardly bold or Namath-esque. I would've liked to read...the table ain't ran yet, indicating that there was more work to do. He was asked specifically about his recent boldness and he offered a turtle in the shell response. There was no Mike McCarthy styled going to Seattle to kick ass. That truly leads me to believe he knows their odds are poor of doing much in the playoffs, but that's just me. No conspiracy just what I think.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



To be fair, you're usually pretty reasonable and you have accurate comments on the defense which is a huge concern. Still absolutely do not understand how some people define success in the long term.
uffda udfa
8 years ago

To be fair, you're usually pretty reasonable and you have accurate comments on the defense which is a huge concern. Still absolutely do not understand how some people define success in the long term.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Success in the long term? Oh, I think this franchise has been successful relative to the other 32 for sure. Wildly successful. However, my comparison or litmus test isn't comparing us to Cleveland or SF, or Buffalo, etc. We have Aaron Rodgers. New England has Tom Brady. The Pats are my comparison and my litmus due to both franchises having an extremely special QB. I don't consider Brees and a lot of the others in the category of Rodgers and Brady, perhaps, some do, and that's part of the issue.

At some point no matter your definition of success you have to look to a team similar to rival expectations. Why has New England been so much more successful than we have? That is a fair question. When it gets asked you see a lot of folks here start screaming about us not being Cleveland as if that means the question isn't relevant.

To me, it's pretty clear the line of demarcation between us and New England is organizational philosophy. They will go for it...we won't. The Pats aren't shy at all about acquiring FA talent that will help them win. They aren't afraid to take on a Michael Floyd because they think he'll help them win. We're content with the Herb Waters of the world and place our fate in the hands of development of far beyond the fringe roster types for the league. We'll find some guy on the street and think we're going to turn him into Deion Sanders. Belichick meanwhile will just go get Deion Sanders. See the difference? Counting on something unlikely to ever happen vs. something that is very likely to happen? Just within the last few days with the Eliot talk taking over for Ted. The lack of aggression is cited. It's common knowledge that we're a passive organization. Football is not a passive game. I realize there are ramifications with cap but to do as little as we've done from on high is beyond disturbing. Adding Woodson and Pickett culminated in a SB. Adding Peppers almost did. These are the moves that should be routinely made but are not. Woodson and Peppers were two guys on the scrap heap. Don't recall a single guy we ever signed in FA who wasn't our own who was coveted.

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Porforis
8 years ago

Success in the long term? Oh, I think this franchise has been successful relative to the other 32 for sure. Wildly successful. However, my comparison or litmus test isn't comparing us to Cleveland or SF, or Buffalo, etc. We have Aaron Rodgers. New England has Tom Brady. The Pats are my comparison and my litmus due to both franchises having an extremely special QB. I don't consider Brees and a lot of the others in the category of Rodgers and Brady, perhaps, some do, and that's part of the issue.

At some point no matter your definition of success you have to look to a team similar to rival expectations. Why has New England been so much more successful than we have? That is a fair question. When it gets asked you see a lot of folks here start screaming about us not being Cleveland as if that means the question isn't relevant.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I go back to my previous post highlighting being one point away in two games away from matching New England's Super Bowl featuring and winning success over the last 10 years. And again admitting the embarrassing fashion in which we've lost a couple of playoff games.
Pack93z
8 years ago
*** edit... on second thought...

[zipmouth]
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

A stir of activity on the board, not because the Packers secured the division.. a home game and a ticket to the playoffs.

Nope... because they are pathetic and dismal.

Only a Packer fan would do this to themselves... look at all the negatives without any balance of positives.

"DOH"




Oh... nice to see you back uffda udfa.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Bah, I bet he did some dances in his silk Packers boxers that they are in the playoffs, but publicly he's being a downer just to damper his hopes so if they get knocked out the sting isn't so overwhelming. After they win the Super Bowl he's going to be Mr. Cheery and delightful on how he was wrong and then just scream SUPPPPPPPPPPPPPERRRRRR BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWLLLLLLLLL CHAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPIIIIIIIIIIIONNNNNNNNNS!!!!!!
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hardrocker950
8 years ago



At some point no matter your definition of success you have to look to a team similar to rival expectations. Why has New England been so much more successful than we have? That is a fair question. When it gets asked you see a lot of folks here start screaming about us not being Cleveland as if that means the question isn't relevant.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I have been grilled for speaking of similar things. When it was known that Sam's injury would be a long term blow to our defense - I think Ted could have gotten us someone to minimize the effects of losing our top CB. Some say that maybe there wasn't a significant game changer willing to come to GB - hard to say, but I would think we could hook someone that can at least play. I think we CAN and SHOULD make comparisons to New England, as we should be on the same level of play.

That said - I am ready to enjoy some playoff football. We shall see if they can overcome.
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