PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
With the MVP talk, where does Rodgers Season rank in his career? He has his highest TD total, 3rd highest yards passing, highest rushing yards with 2nd highest TD (3 years with 4). We have been pretty tough on him because of how high we/he has set the bar for him. But where would you compare this year to his best years so far? Is it better than either of his previous MVP years?

2011 he was throwing to Jennings, Finley, Nelson, Jones, Driver and Cobb while having a combined 1000+ yards from Starks/Grant.
1014 he had a healthy Jordy at his peak and healthy Cobb along with Lacy running the ball.

Could putting together the record and stats he did this year, with a hodge podge running game and passing game that had to evolve as Jordy got his legs under him, and Adams fought with drop issues, cobb and Cook health issues, Moving Monty to a RB, bringing in Geronimo Allison. Could this be his best performance when looking at what an MVP is supposed to be?
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Porforis
8 years ago
In my mind, he shouldn't be in the MVP conversation but that's more about my own definition of what the MVP should be. He was not right for 4-6 games out of this season, and consistency is a big part of what makes an MVP an MVP for me. That being said, the fact that his "Down" games made him a little-less-than-average QB just kind of highlights how good he is when he's "right". But these killer games don't make up for the down period - Rodgers at his absolute peak would have won a couple more games in spite of the drops and the defensive woes. He just wasn't right earlier in the season.

Statistically, definitely one of his better years. In the end, all I care about is the Super Bowl. Winning another one would be stellar, but anything less than at least making it to the big game would be a huge letdown. The CBs are incredibly suspect and a huge liability with all the injuries, but Capers is an absolute wizard at getting functional performance out of MASH units so I don't forsee the defense losing us games outright.
DarkaneRules
8 years ago
He's playing as well as I've ever seen him play right now. It's pretty incredible to witness, especially being fans of this team.
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Rick12
8 years ago

With the MVP talk, where does Rodgers Season rank in his career? He has his highest TD total, 3rd highest yards passing, highest rushing yards with 2nd highest TD (3 years with 4). We have been pretty tough on him because of how high we/he has set the bar for him. But where would you compare this year to his best years so far? Is it better than either of his previous MVP years?

2011 he was throwing to Jennings, Finley, Nelson, Jones, Driver and Cobb while having a combined 1000+ yards from Starks/Grant.
1014 he had a healthy Jordy at his peak and healthy Cobb along with Lacy running the ball.

Could putting together the record and stats he did this year, with a hodge podge running game and passing game that had to evolve as Jordy got his legs under him, and Adams fought with drop issues, cobb and Cook health issues, Moving Monty to a RB, bringing in Geronimo Allison. Could this be his best performance when looking at what an MVP is supposed to be?

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 


Rodgers season was as good or better then any Packer QB ever he should be the NFL's MVP!!
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago
When we say he had four to six bad games, are we saying bad games by NFL QB standards, or Aaron Rodgers standards? I have to ask because looking at his game by game stats, I don't see anything close to six bad games by any reasonable standards whatsoever.

Maybe the five games he threw at least one interception = bad game?

Maybe the seven games he had a sub 100 qb rating = bad game?

Maybe the four games he was 1:1 on TD:INT ratio = bad game?

Maybe the game he threw under 200 yards = bad game? (BTW, we won that game)

Maybe the four games he had under 6 yards per pass attempt average = bad game?

Maybe the three games he completed under 60% of his passes = bad game? (BTW, we won two of them games)

I'm not trying to come off like an ass here, but seriously, what the hell metrics do you guys claim as bad games? lol


I think we are just spoiled at QB to be honest lol
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8 years ago
I don't know if he will be the league MVP. This may be his best performance considering the slow start for Jordy and that he didn't have a RB for most of the year.
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steveishere
8 years ago
I think the last 6 weeks or whatever it's been has been maybe his most impressive play but I wouldn't say this season was better than either 2011 or 2014
Porforis
8 years ago

When we say he had four to six bad games, are we saying bad games by NFL QB standards, or Aaron Rodgers standards? I have to ask because looking at his game by game stats, I don't see anything close to six bad games by any reasonable standards whatsoever.

Maybe the five games he threw at least one interception = bad game?

Maybe the seven games he had a sub 100 qb rating = bad game?

Maybe the four games he was 1:1 on TD:INT ratio = bad game?

Maybe the game he threw under 200 yards = bad game? (BTW, we won that game)

Maybe the four games he had under 6 yards per pass attempt average = bad game?

Maybe the three games he completed under 60% of his passes = bad game? (BTW, we won two of them games)

I'm not trying to come off like an ass here, but seriously, what the hell metrics do you guys claim as bad games? lol


I think we are just spoiled at QB to be honest lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Nonono, no statistics. Something mechanics something headcase something not running the offense.
The_Green_Ninja
8 years ago
If the Packers became the Browns tomorrow you all would be begging for a QB with Aaron's bad games.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

Nonono, no statistics. Something mechanics something headcase something not running the offense.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Okay, but, we haven't a single clue what is going on between his ears, nor do know the checks he's making for coverages or blitz or what the run/pass offensive play calls are ... soo ... how is it we know he had 4 - 6 bad games based off variables we're not privy to the details of? Sorry, still confused I guess.


I found this interesting.

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