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8 years ago




Clearly this was a helmet to helmet hit. Most video that I have seen today is the last 10 seconds or so. The link I have here is a longer clip.

Why wold Thomas not be flagged for this hit? My only guess would be that he was in position to make the tackle when Carey was still more or less upright and it was Carey who lowered his shoulders and helmet at the last moment.

Regardless of a penalty or not I wonder if NFL Inc fines Thomas simply because they can.
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steveishere
8 years ago
H2h hits penalties apply (supposed to apply) to defenseless players like a WR catching a pass or a QB standing in the pocket or throwing a pass. A RB pounding it between the tackles isn't defenseless, he can lower his helmet/shoulders and brace for the hit or slide if he doesn't want the hit. He can see it coming. That's why you don't see Cam Newton getting all the calls that people cry other QBs get, he essentially declares himself as a runner often and doesn't slide or go out of bounds if a defender is close to him.
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8 years ago

H2h hits penalties apply (supposed to apply) to defenseless players like a WR catching a pass or a QB standing in the pocket or throwing a pass. A RB pounding it between the tackles isn't defenseless, he can lower his helmet/shoulders and brace for the hit or slide if he doesn't want the hit. He can see it coming. That's why you don't see Cam Newton getting all the calls that people cry other QBs get, he essentially declares himself as a runner often and doesn't slide or go out of bounds if a defender is close to him.

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Sort of. I decided not to be lazy and went to look at the rule. This is from 2013 . I don't know if it has been adjusted since then. NFL Inc makes so many rule changes I can't keep up.

NEW RULE: A ban on a ball carrier initiating contact with the crown of his helmet in the open field or by a defender while making a tackle.

What the rule changes: A 15-yard penalty will be called if a runner or a tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players clearly are outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle-to-tackle and from 3 yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team's end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or a tackler against an opponent would not be deemed a foul.



I think it was not flagged because they were within the tackle box and not more than 3 yard beyond the LOS.
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steveishere
8 years ago
Even outside the tackle box the rule is more focused toward the launching type hits I would say Thomas' was more incidental. A good example is the one Merriweather put on Lacy a couple years back where he left his feet and basically torpedoed his helmet into Lacy's helmet.
nerdmann
8 years ago
It's because the NFL is already losing tv ratings.
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Nonstopdrivel
8 years ago
Taking that rule literally for a moment . . . when was the last time we actually saw a running back flagged for leading with the top of his helmet? 😲
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8 years ago

Taking that rule literally for a moment . . . when was the last time we actually saw a running back flagged for leading with the top of his helmet? 😲

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