sschind
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7 years ago
You want to talk blowing people up? Take another look at the hit Wingo put on that O-lineman late in the 4th quarter. I don't know where he was coming from but when the Seahawks came to the line he was no where to be seen but he came running in from the side at full speed and cut up just as the ball was snapped and almost knocked him into Wilson's lap. Maybe that's a new play. Running full tilt at the LOS is risky because if you don't time it just right you risk the offsides but running full tilt parallel to the LOS and cutting up at the snap of the ball puts physics in your favor. I don't care how big the other guy is he is going to get blown up as long as the timing is right.
warhawk
7 years ago

You want to talk blowing people up? Take another look at the hit Wingo put on that O-lineman late in the 4th quarter. I don't know where he was coming from but when the Seahawks came to the line he was no where to be seen but he came running in from the side at full speed and cut up just as the ball was snapped and almost knocked him into Wilson's lap. Maybe that's a new play. Running full tilt at the LOS is risky because if you don't time it just right you risk the offsides but running full tilt parallel to the LOS and cutting up at the snap of the ball puts physics in your favor. I don't care how big the other guy is he is going to get blown up as long as the timing is right.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



He had actually come off the field and the coach realized they only had 10 on the field and told him to get back in there and it just timed out perfectly where he never slowed down!


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wpr
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7 years ago

You want to talk blowing people up? Take another look at the hit Wingo put on that O-lineman late in the 4th quarter. I don't know where he was coming from but when the Seahawks came to the line he was no where to be seen but he came running in from the side at full speed and cut up just as the ball was snapped and almost knocked him into Wilson's lap. Maybe that's a new play. Running full tilt at the LOS is risky because if you don't time it just right you risk the offsides but running full tilt parallel to the LOS and cutting up at the snap of the ball puts physics in your favor. I don't care how big the other guy is he is going to get blown up as long as the timing is right.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



He was running in from the sidelines. He or someone missed the susubstitution. He chugged in then turned to hot right but kept moving forward and popped the LG pushing him back.
I think he caught the lineman off guard (pun intended ). It probably wouldn't work again.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago
Some of you have poor memory recall, so here's the actual play. (dang old folks!) lol




BTW I split the Ringo posts into new thread. That was me.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
That LG saw him coming and you could see him prepare for the impact. Didn't work though as he got tossed.

Wonder what Daniels would do with a running start.
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sschind
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7 years ago

He was running in from the sidelines. He or someone missed the susubstitution. He chugged in then turned to hot right but kept moving forward and popped the LG pushing him back.
I think he caught the lineman off guard (pun intended ). It probably wouldn't work again.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Probably not but it was fun to watch several times.
Barfarn
7 years ago
I really think this is a play that could be incorporated on 3rd and long [9+]. It's Capers' strategy in the psycho package on steroids.

Glwoinski was 6'4"3 and 307 at 2015 combine and Seattle has him listed at 310, which is slight for a guard and he stinks. So I wonder how this would have worked against a decent typical squatty fat guard, like Lane Taylor who is 6'3"0 and probably 325-330.

If that would have worked against Lane Taylor, then the affect this would have on a QB knowing his guard is about to get blasted back into his lap would be invaluable.

Of course, WPR makes a great point in that if they see Ringo line up and beginning his sprint in from the slot, they'll be ready for it.
Porforis
7 years ago
Yeah, don't think this is a trick they could use more than once or twice and even then it's a gamble. So incredibly dependent on timing. If the play clock isn't about to expire, just don't snap the ball and you have an offsides - or if he stops short and resets, snap it and he'll be off-balance. This just happened to work well because the timing's right and I think the confusion factor is more likely to have success in the future than timing things correctly and getting a running start will.
Barfarn
7 years ago

Yeah, don't think this is a trick they could use more than once or twice and even then it's a gamble. So incredibly dependent on timing. If the play clock isn't about to expire, just don't snap the ball and you have an offsides - or if he stops short and resets, snap it and he'll be off-balance. This just happened to work well because the timing's right and I think the confusion factor is more likely to have success in the future than timing things correctly and getting a running start will.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



This play really doesn't depend all that much on perfect timing. If you watch the play Ringo is running parallel to LOS and the snap is WAAAY before Ringo gets there. We get desensitized to speed; but a 4.9/5.0 40 is pretty damn fast. Ringo made up the distance in a split second. Now Imagine what would have happened if Ringo timed it perfectly.

This Ringo play can work like the Rodgers' hard count creates a FEAR of jumping offside; this gives our OL a huge advantage. On 3rd and 4 these DLmen and blitzers are on their absolute heels when the ball is snapped. Plus they're thinking, "dont jump, dont jump", instead of their assignment. Bennett's game is jumping the snap count, he's the world leader in encroachment penalties and pressure; he didn't commit a single penalty, but nor did he cause any pressure. Rodgers took Bennett out of his game! Same thing with substitutions, these players and coaches are so nuts about not getting caught they are expelling precious energy sprinting on and off field and their mind is not 100% on their assignment.

So you do the Ringo dance a couple of times and you get them thinking about it. You get them altering their snap count when they see Ringo slide out to slot area and scraping his right foot on the ground like a bull ready to charge. All 11 O players will be thinking about the Ringo charge, instead of their assignment.

So Ringo anticipates the snap, and takes off, if he's too early, he just slows up and if necessary comes to rest in the spot that was left open for him at LOS. And he performs like he would normally.

I even thought of a variation to the play [I feel like George Costanza telling Jerry he has way to trade for both Bonds and Griffey]. You leave a hole for Ringo on the right and the left. If the ball isn;t snapped as Ringo is ready to turn up into the right hole; he runs past the center and turns it up the hole on left side. And sometimes when he turns it up left B gap he can hit the OT and knock him on his ass as Guard is reaching to block Ringo, then the LOLB has a free path to QB.

How about this, it's 3rd and 17, and you got 3 Ringos standing around by the left and right slot WRs and you got three of them crashing into the OL at once. We'll call it BIC [Bull in China Shop] for one Ringo; BICS for 3 Ringos.

And hey on 3rd and 17 and Ringo times it wrong and crashes too early and just knocks Glowinski on his ass from his stance, probably 5 yards back; worst case its 3rd and 12, but with that team of roided-up thugs, I guarantee a 15 yard PF.

Here's the big problem: The league would probably intervene because if Glowinski's head was down, and Ringo crashed him, the risk of spine/neck injury would be high.

One thing I know for sure; the DL room had a lot of fun with that play today.
RaiderPride
7 years ago
Very much like Bo Jackson Vs Brian Bosworth at the goal line.

Nice.
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