Zero2Cool
8 years ago
Do you think the Packers should kick the tires on a trade for WR Torrey Smith? He's 27 years old and has run 4.36 in the 40 yard dash. He's a really good deep threat.
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mi_keys
8 years ago
According to Spotrac, he's got a 9.6M cap hit each season from 2017-2019, 1.6M of which is tied to his signing bonus. In a hypothetical trade, my understanding is we wouldn't take the cap hit for the signing bonus since that's already paid. Still, I don't know that we can afford to eat up most of our available rollover and pay another receiver 8M per year going forward. Not unless we plan to move or rework some other deals.
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beast
8 years ago

Do you think the Packers should kick the tires on a trade for WR Torrey Smith? He's 27 years old and has run 4.36 in the 40 yard dash. He's a really good deep threat.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I think Smith had a leg injury and still runs fast, but not sure as fast as he did before that. Of course it's hard to tell with his QBs getting worse as well.

Like in any trade, my question is what do they want for him?

He'd cost 8 million against the Packers cap, who recently let Sitton go just to free up the cap for next year's FAs so they can resign their own and Packers have a number of OL and OLBers which are very important to the Packers.

Also even if he can run deep well, can Rodgers hit him deep on the move well?

And is he willing to take less to be traded to a winning team?

When they were FAs, I felt like Smith might be able to help the Packers more than Cobb, because Smith's depth threat would open up the defense more for others, than Cobb in the middle... but that was when the offense was working right. Now I don't know...

It all depends on how much the 49ers want for him, and how much cap space for resigning other players he's going to take up to how much money is available. If he'd rework his deal to say a two year prove it deal, which cost a lot less then I'd be more interested.
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DakotaT
8 years ago
49ers would have no leverage in a trade like this because of the cap hit. A late round draft pick is all this trade would net them. It's a salary dump.
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DarkaneRules
8 years ago
We promoted Geronimo, so I think neh.
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beast
8 years ago

49ers would have no leverage in a trade like this because of the cap hit. A late round draft pick is all this trade would net them. It's a salary dump.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I'd like to add him, but I'm worried about that salary making it harder to resign guys like Perry, Datone, Lacy, Tretter, etc... and I'm not sure if he'd be the final piece to knocking the offense back to it's old self or not.

But Nelson and Smith on the outside, with Cobb and Adams in the slots and Monty in the backfield does sound interesting for an offense that is going to have to pass the ball a ton because the running game is hurting right now.

Might be able to double two of them, but that still leaves Nelson, Smith or Cobb with a one on one... and maybe Monty with a coverage LB or back-up S.


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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
We don't have the space so there would need to be a clause in the trade making it dependent on him agreeing to renegotiate his contract. Unless we lose more WR, I think we could do more looking for secondary pieces. When not having a RB in the game, we will more than likely be using 4 WR plus a TE so as of now, we have enough depth at WR.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

According to Spotrac, he's got a 9.6M cap hit each season from 2017-2019, 1.6M of which is tied to his signing bonus. In a hypothetical trade, my understanding is we wouldn't take the cap hit for the signing bonus since that's already paid. Still, I don't know that we can afford to eat up most of our available rollover and pay another receiver 8M per year going forward. Not unless we plan to move or rework some other deals.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



Yeah, scratch that idea. I didn't realize he signed a craptastic contract.

I guess we just have to be thankful the draft blessed us with Davante Adams.
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DakotaT
8 years ago

Yeah, scratch that idea. I didn't realize he signed a craptastic contract.

I guess we just have to be thankful the draft blessed us with Davante Adams.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Whew!!!!!!!! And here I thought I was going to have to school you on finance again.
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8 years ago

We don't have the space so there would need to be a clause in the trade making it dependent on him agreeing to renegotiate his contract. Unless we lose more WR, I think we could do more looking for secondary pieces. When not having a RB in the game, we will more than likely be using 4 WR plus a TE so as of now, we have enough depth at WR.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



No way the NFLPA allows their members to renegotiate their contract.
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