Aaron09
15 years ago
I think everybody should wait and see what happens to the rest of the Roid Heads first. If McGwire, Palmeiro, Giambi, Canseco and any of the other guys make it he should, but if they don't he shouldn't either. I know there are different schools of thought though.
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go.pack.go.
15 years ago
I think he still should be. He only used them until 03' and he has proved that he is a great baseball player w/ out roids.
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nathaniel
15 years ago
I think you let them in, but it has to be noted somewhere about what went on during these years in baseball. I believe Barry Bonds knowingly used steroids, but he HAS hit more homeruns than anyone else in the history of Major League Baseball. Barry Bonds had a HOF career before he started taking steroids.

I think there is no doubt that A-Rod is an outstanding athlete, regardless of what he may have taken. McGwire and Sosa were known for their power, A-Rod for his versitility. I think you have to acknowledge what these players did, but there needs to be an "asterix", so to speak. I honestly don't see how any of the writers will actually ever vote them in, though.

Also, if any of the known steroids users are ever voted into the HOF, I don't know how anyone else feels, but I think Pete Rose should be in the HOF as well. Put him in at least as a player. They can still ban him from baseball and keep him from participating in the league and even ignore his years as a manager, but as a player he deserves to be in.
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Yerko
15 years ago
Letting players in who cheated is wrong. As a 24 year old athlete, if I see something like that, why shouldn't I be allowed then to go juice up then and make my chances better of doing what I do?

If these guys are voted in for being great, it sends out the wrong message to the youth in athletics today. Looks like I am in the minority on this. Athletes get away with too much and it is sickening.

You are a professional because you already have the talent to be one...why cheat?
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DarkaneRules
15 years ago
I don't know when this 'roid era will end...

In a way I think it has become part of the sport and cannot be reversed. I think you let him in down the road if he continues to be productive, but he keeps up his work of the last couple years, as a casual fan, he is not as relevant as a player from this point forward.
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