TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago
I have to agree with many of the comments here. I have honestly felt that Ted takes a lot of heat for the lack of FA which is not fair. Many players simply would prefer not to play here when they have the choice. Which means unless you overpay they will play elsewhere. And Ted only overpays with a known commodity. I think this is why Ted does quite well later in FA as then guys are less focused on destination and more focused on getting a contract.
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8 years ago

I have to agree with many of the comments here. I have honestly felt that Ted takes a lot of heat for the lack of FA which is not fair. Many players simply would prefer not to play here when they have the choice. Which means unless you overpay they will play elsewhere. And Ted only overpays with a known commodity. I think this is why Ted does quite well later in FA as then guys are less focused on destination and more focused on getting a contract.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



It is true but that is the part of the frustration between Packers Inc and the fans.

Let's use Trevathan as the example. The Bears signed him for $24.5 million over 4 years. Roughly $6.1 a year. His cap hit for 2016 is actually $6.3 which places him 184th highest paid player. For illustration purposes Lang's hit is $6.18 million.

Just to make this simple let's ignore those who feel Trevathan benefited from being part of a great defense. Otherwise we will get sidetracked in the difference between CM3 & Co, the Broncos defense, the teams played and the altitude in Denver.

Arguably Trevathan would be an upgrade at MLB. At 25 he could be considered a longer term solution so the length of the contract should scare too many away. At $6 million a year he is affordable.

On the other side of the equation is the cold hard fact that even if he would be enough of an upgrade to take GB to 3 SB in a row (Not saying he would.) in the greater scheme of things he would not generate any more revenue for the organization than Joe Thomas.

Trevathan will sell more jerseys but that is about it. He doesn't help sell tickets. Which means no additional concessions or parking revenue. More people will not be flocking to the Packers Hall of Fame because of him.

Unlike in other sports due to revenue sharing teams do not make much because they are in the playoffs. A 2013 Forbes article said most teams only make a little additional revenue and some teams actually lose money. As an illustration because of their lease, the Falcons only got about $500,000 in concession sales revenue in 2012. The Pats over $2 million.

It is a wise business practice to not over pay for FAs. It is also a wise business practice for Packers Inc to not pay a player (FA or not) what he should get. Slightly underpay. Keep those current players who are loyal. Fill in with young players who don't have a choice and the revenue stream will continue unabated.

Some/many fans don't care about that. They want to see their team make the playoffs and then once that expectation is met, have long runs in the playoffs culminating with the SB. I bet the fans of Buffalo were not pleased with just making it to the SB from 91-94. Expectations met means people change their expectations.


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DakotaT
8 years ago

This is not to be critical of Greg. This shows that players including FAs do not want to play in cold, White GB. Even if they have Aaron throwing them the ball. Even if they make the playoffs most of the time.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Why do think we have Nelson, Abby, and Janis?
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

Why do think we have Nelson, Abby, and Janis?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Obviously they were the best player available at their draft position. That's why.
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DakotaT
8 years ago

Obviously they were the best player available at their draft position. That's why.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Obviously? We could have long argument on this one. 😂
Ted Thompson has a little Bud Grant in him.
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PackerTraxx
8 years ago
Playing in the cold seems to weigh heavier than living in the cold. We should have built a retractable roof. It's not the sixties any more when the NFL Championship was over by Christmas. Now the playoffs are right through the dead of winter. If the police made a criminal go out in that weather it would be police brutality.
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
DakotaT
8 years ago

Playing in the cold seems to weigh heavier than living in the cold. We should have built a retractable roof. It's not the sixties any more when the NFL Championship was over by Christmas. Now the playoffs are right through the dead of winter. If the police made a criminal go out in that weather it would be police brutality.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



WTF? The day the Green Bay Packers play in a pussy dome, is the day I quit being a fan. Maybe the Packers should build their team for playoff success in cold weather instead always being "soft". Besides, Wisconsin is balmy most of the time. 😂
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8 years ago
I don't think Coach Mikey has learned to prepare them to play in the cold. Opening a couple of doors or turning on some fans for an afternoon practice or two doesn't get it done. Of course he could always stick the balls in the freezer again. That works so well.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

Playing in the cold seems to weigh heavier than living in the cold. We should have built a retractable roof. It's not the sixties any more when the NFL Championship was over by Christmas. Now the playoffs are right through the dead of winter. If the police made a criminal go out in that weather it would be police brutality.

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If we want it done before Christmas, screw the roof and start the season two months earlier. Boom, problem solved and didn't cost BILLIONS on stadium renovations.
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isocleas2
8 years ago

If we want it done before Christmas, screw the roof and start the season two months earlier. Boom, problem solved and didn't cost BILLIONS on stadium renovations.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Of course if we're playing Devils advocate... then we'll likely be talking about how inhumane it is teams play in the middle of summer. We're already somewhat concerned how the team will play week 1 in Jacksonville because of the heat imagine if the game was in July?
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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