DakotaT
8 years ago
Oh yeah, and back on topic. I guess you can't even legal open carry in Minnesota if you are a black man without being executed by a white cop. Black people better make sure they don't have any broken tail lights going forward in this country. You just never know when that police officer pulling you over is dumb as a fucking post with an itchy trigger finger.

Tough week for America, two more black men executed by white cops and some white cops executed by fed up black men. Are we all positive on the NRA's interpretation of the 2nd amendment? Or is it time for reasonable people to step to the plate and tell the radicals in this country to go fuck themselves?

I already know the mensa club's opinion on this one.
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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

Oh yeah, and back on topic. I guess you can't even legal open carry in Minnesota if you are a black man without being executed by a white cop. Black people better make sure they don't have any broken tail lights going forward in this country. You just never know when that police officer pulling you over is dumb as a fucking post with an itchy trigger finger.

Tough week for America, two more black men executed by white cops and some white cops executed by fed up black men. Are we all positive on the NRA's interpretation of the 2nd amendment? Or is it time for reasonable people to step to the plate and tell the radicals in this country to go fuck themselves?

I already know the mensa club's opinion on this one.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



And once again, you leave no doubt about how absolutely asinine you are.
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8 years ago
The quality of North Dakotan education in basic logic, history ... never ceases to amaze me.

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Rockmolder
8 years ago

The problem with the Tax more from the rich mentality is that they seem to think the Rich person is taking their money putting it in coffee cans and burying it in the back yard so the Poor people don't get to touch it. When reality is, that money, their profit, goes right back into the system through investments which get used to fund businesses which pay incomes of the poor and middle class.

To put it on an average Joe level. I pay a kid from down the street $20 to mow my yard because I have extra money left at the end of the pay period. Government comes and decides to "steal" more taxes from me. I am still going to pay my bills and buy my food and do everything I did before, but I'm not going to have that $20 anymore so guess who is out. That is right, the kid who I will no longer be able to pay to mow the yard.

Yes the rich won't feel it if we increase the taxes, they will still have more than enough money to do everything they do today. What is actually getting taken is the money that is left over that is used to lend and fund the businesses that pay the rest of us. Raising their tax will not increase one person's salary, it will not make anything cheaper. All it does is make Government bigger.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



No, but those rich people are investing it in real estate, stock markets, vacations, yachts or big companies, where of every 10 dollars invested, 20 cents get to that average Joe.

Trickle down economics asumes that all that extra money somehow gets pumped back into a market where the common man benefits. It's a crazy idea where supply is the main factor for job creation, rather than demand.

If you have $20 million laying around, odds are you're not building a factory in the US or are investing in start-ups. You either expand by outsourcing or invest in the stock market. Both ways where there's no money trickling down.

And the money that does get invested in start-ups goes back up with, depending on the risk involved, quite some intrest.

Making taxes more progressive improves spending room on the bottom range of incomes, while still having the funds to help those in need. I'm sitll not quite sure if we're arguing for the full abandonement of a welfare state here, as that seems to be the only way to get that low, flat tax to ever happen.
Rockmolder
8 years ago

Tax wealth, I would ask if you really can be this stupid. But you have made that answer abundantly clear. What an incredibly asinine idea. Is your plan to run all the wealth out of the country because that is exactly what you would accomplish.

Hey lets work hard and save money to buy a house only to get taxed year after year on the value of that house. Don't spend money to make improvement because hey that will just get you taxed more. Hey that savings you save up all your life for is going to disappear because it will get taxed year after year. Brilliant.



Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Yeah, because logically those taxes are going to be well over intrest rates and have zero exclusions, like homeownership of a single house.

Taxing wealth is not a crazy idea, as long as you have a well thought out system in place that doesn't make saving up useless.
Zero2Cool
8 years ago
It doesn't matter who you tax or how much you tax if the money is spent irresponsibly and without thinking about tomorrow. A lot of the how money is spent right now is quite foolishly, especially with schools.

What is this topic actually about? I see the title is something about leaving it to CA?
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DakotaT
8 years ago

And once again, you leave no doubt about how absolutely asinine you are.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Oh that's right, Republicans declared there's no more racism in America when Obama was elected. So yeah, all the oppression of the blacks and other minorities by white America ended in January 2009. I forgot about that for a minute, thanks for the reminder.
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DakotaT
8 years ago

It doesn't matter who you tax or how much you tax if the money is spent irresponsibly and without thinking about tomorrow. A lot of the how money is spent right now is quite foolishly, especially with schools.

What is this topic actually about? I see the title is something about leaving it to CA?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Reasonable people in California want to implement gun control, and the mensa club doesn't think that's right.
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DakotaT
8 years ago

The quality of North Dakotan education in basic logic, history ... never ceases to amaze me.

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Originally Posted by: Wade 



Maybe I should go take some classes in Texas where they've rewritten all the standard textbooks. Then I'd be smart like all you guys. 😂
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Smokey
8 years ago



What is this topic actually about? I see the title is something about leaving it to CA?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




As I see it, this thread began a discussion about gun laws and specifically gun laws in California.

Yes , laws deter honest citizens from breaking the laws. Yet their are too many that don't respect the laws and will find a way to purchase a firearm despite the laws. This will always hold true.

What needs to change are attitudes and a more balanced economic system. People blame others for their lot in life and take out their anger on the innocent storekeeper or fellow workers or family or even another race (blaming an entire group of people for the actions of a few ) .

People would be happier and less prone to violence , in general , if the middle class in America were growing and not shrinking. There would be less crime, but it would not cure all of the violence in our nation.
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