Barfarn
9 years ago

Nobody "needed" a QB that year. Not to mention the draft had no cap. Part of the reason why teams who might've needed a QB avoided Rodgers is because he easily could've demanded Top 5 money.

It's more than just the ability out of college. It's the business side too.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



Rodgers signed a 5yr 7.7M contract w/ Packers in 2005, in his slot with a slight bump for a QB. He had no basis nor a choice to demand top 5 money; except to play in Canada for half.

And if you polled the GMs/coaches, I'm certain many would love to have a top 5 player at QB backing up even Brady, Manning or in this case Favre for under 2M/yr. Heck , SF had Rattay, Dorsey ad Pickett in 2004; even they could have traded up to get AR, to go along w/ Smith-assuming they believed it was a tough choice between Smith and AR.

But here some teams that really needed a top 5 QB:
Wash at #24 and #9. They pick jason Cambell at #24-do they not move up when they see AR at 20, then 21 then 22 if they viewed AR as a top 5 pick? Of course they do, they would DARE take a chance that someone jumps ahead of them or that Oak and Balt will select him. And would they take a top QB at 9 and get a CB later, if they saw AR as a top 5.

Oakland- At #22 no one would believe they had to have Fabien Washinton instead of top 5 pick QB Rodgers; when they had 33 YO Kerry Colllins.

Balt at #21- had Boller who started 25 mediocre games in 2003-4; No way Balt drafts mark Carrier if they thought AR was a top 5 pick.

Jax #20-Had Leftwich start 27 mediocre games in 2003-4; they knew what they had also;no way they draft Matt Jones instead of top 5 pick QB.

Dallas #19 and #11- they had 33 yo Bledsoe-no way they dont take AR if he's a top 5 with one of these 2 pics.
Hou #16- after 3 failed years of Derrick Carr-out from under G money so cap hit yr 4 and beyond probably a wash; if not a savings-They draft AR if he's top 5.

KC- #15- 35 yo Trent Green was playing well-but they draft AR instead of MLB Johnson if they see hm as top 5.
Car #14- Delhomme had not yet blossomed though they liked him alot-but ya gotta think if ya got a chace at a top 5 guy dont ya take it.

NO#13-was over with the Aaron Brooks experiment. in 2006 they traded the farm for Brees; wouldn't they have just picked their franchise QB here is they thought he was top 5?

Det#10- Harrington had started 44 lousy games; they get a cap savigs if he's cut-it is impossible they dont draft AR here if he's a top 5 guy in their mind.

AZ#8-had 34 YO broken down Kurt Warner-even if they had a crystal ball knowing he'd catch lightining in 2 years-they still draft a top 5 QB at 9 instead of Rolle, no doubt!

And there is no doubt that Clev, Mia, Chic, and TB trade up from #2-5 in 2nd rnd once AR crosses #20 or they'd have picked him in the 1st if AR was a top 5 in their mind.

And Minn picked 2 busts Williamson and Erasmus James instead-the believed in Culpepper.
Jacob
9 years ago
Yeah looking back it was questionable.
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9 years ago

Rodgers signed a 5yr 7.7M contract w/ Packers in 2005, in his slot with a slight bump for a QB. He had no basis nor a choice to demand top 5 money; except to play in Canada for half.

And if you polled the GMs/coaches, I'm certain many would love to have a top 5 player at QB backing up even Brady, Manning or in this case Favre for under 2M/yr. Heck , SF had Rattay, Dorsey ad Pickett in 2004; even they could have traded up to get AR, to go along w/ Smith-assuming they believed it was a tough choice between Smith and AR.

But here some teams that really needed a top 5 QB:
Wash at #24 and #9. They pick jason Cambell at #24-do they not move up when they see Aaron Rodgers at 20, then 21 then 22 if they viewed Aaron Rodgers as a top 5 pick? Of course they do, they would DARE take a chance that someone jumps ahead of them or that Oak and Balt will select him. And would they take a top QB at 9 and get a CB later, if they saw Aaron Rodgers as a top 5.

Oakland- At #22 no one would believe they had to have Fabien Washinton instead of top 5 pick QB Rodgers; when they had 33 YO Kerry Colllins.

Balt at #21- had Boller who started 25 mediocre games in 2003-4; No way Balt drafts mark Carrier if they thought Aaron Rodgers was a top 5 pick.

Jax #20-Had Leftwich start 27 mediocre games in 2003-4; they knew what they had also;no way they draft Matt Jones instead of top 5 pick QB.

Dallas #19 and #11- they had 33 yo Bledsoe-no way they dont take Aaron Rodgers if he's a top 5 with one of these 2 pics.
Hou #16- after 3 failed years of Derrick Carr-out from under G money so cap hit yr 4 and beyond probably a wash; if not a savings-They draft Aaron Rodgers if he's top 5.

KC- #15- 35 yo Trent Green was playing well-but they draft Aaron Rodgers instead of MLB Johnson if they see hm as top 5.
Car #14- Delhomme had not yet blossomed though they liked him alot-but ya gotta think if ya got a chace at a top 5 guy dont ya take it.

NO#13-was over with the Aaron Brooks experiment. in 2006 they traded the farm for Brees; wouldn't they have just picked their franchise QB here is they thought he was top 5?

Det#10- Harrington had started 44 lousy games; they get a cap savigs if he's cut-it is impossible they dont draft Aaron Rodgers here if he's a top 5 guy in their mind.

AZ#8-had 34 YO broken down Kurt Warner-even if they had a crystal ball knowing he'd catch lightining in 2 years-they still draft a top 5 QB at 9 instead of Rolle, no doubt!

And there is no doubt that Clev, Mia, Chic, and TB trade up from #2-5 in 2nd rnd once Aaron Rodgers crosses #20 or they'd have picked him in the 1st if Aaron Rodgers was a top 5 in their mind.

And Minn picked 2 busts Williamson and Erasmus James instead-the believed in Culpepper.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



GMs lie. A lot. Rarely do they actually take the BPA. They take the BPA that fits their needs.

AR was absolutely better than most of the QBs in the league at that time. But like every single rookie QB he needed time to grow and develop. A former HC said that 3 years is the typical time it takes.

Most of the GMs who passed on AR didn't have the 3 years to wait. They took players that they felt would get out on the field in their rookie season and become a starter by yr 2.

I was never so pleased by a draft pick as I was with Aaron. I knew that he would sit behind Brett for at least 2 yrs
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