nerdmann
9 years ago

Having the final call in drafting players in the early rounds isn’t for the faint of heart. All the preparation and experience in the world can’t always protect you from coming up empty in making your signature picks. The Packers have made their share of gaffes throughout their history with players who were slated to

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Schnelker ruined Rich Campbell's career. I don't think he ever liked Campbell or had confidence in him. Completely the opposite of what happened with Bert and Aaron, to say nothing of Mark Brunell.

They messed with Campbell's throwing motion too. Complete waste.
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yooperfan
9 years ago
I consider Tony Manderich the biggest bust although he did end up having a marginally productive career with the Colts.
PackerTraxx
9 years ago
Any team that's been in the league as long as the Packers will have a "good" starting line up of draft busts!!!!! 🙂 On the other hand not many teams have as many HOFer's as the Pack, especially QBs.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

I consider Tony Manderich the biggest bust although he did end up having a marginally productive career with the Colts.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



Bruce Clark. Brent Fulwood too, but I thought he was decent his rookie year.
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Wade
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9 years ago
Didn't Fullwood take a punt or kickoff to the house in his first game as a Packer?

As for the list:
1. Campbell was a bust. (But I agree with nerdmann, too. To my mind, Schnelker could be on the All-Bust coaching team. He drove me nuts for years with his playacting.
2. I wouldn't include Thompson, even though he had a ho hum career for a first-rounder. I thought about Barty Smith (or was it Barry? I can't remember which was which.
3. I don't think you can call people busts when his non-career was due to injury.
4. I don't put Ferguson as a bust at all. I think part of his non-numbers was less "bad route running" and poor use by the coaches and play callers.
5. I didn't remember Gary Lewis being a first round pick. And I don't remember much of him as a TE, so he probably meets the bust list. But the guy was a demon at blocking kicks -- so much so that the NFL changed the rules to make blocking kicks harder. Without that rule change, he could have gone on for years. They didn't have special team pro-bowlers/POY awards back then, but he would have had a couple if they did.
6. Mandarich has to be on the list. But he did have a second career with Infante in Indianapolis. Definite Packer bust, but on balance I think he could say he was a true NFL starting OL based on those Indy years.
7. Sherrod. See Terrence Murphy. I was never sold on Sherrod pre-injury, so I'll still grump about him as evidence of how OL appears to be TTs Achilles heel as a personnel evaluator; but I'm not going to label him a bust.
8. Also on OL. I guess you can't call him a bust given the number of years he started, but Hold-em Ron Hailstorm used to bug the heck out of me. It was like he absolutely had to get called for holding at least once or twice a game.
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nerdmann
9 years ago
Fullwood AND Terrell Buckley took one to the house in their first action. Cobb did too, but I don't think it was his first touch. It was early as a rookie though.

Agreed on Darrell Thompson and Gary Lewis.

Thompson never really fit Infante's "million dollar sandlot football" scheme iirc.
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Pack93z
9 years ago


3. I don't think you can call people busts when his non-career was due to injury.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



This is one of the biggest pet peeves I have... injuries are different than just not living up to potential because of a misread in talent or effort. At least in the context when fans use the word bust.
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yooperfan
9 years ago

Hold-em Ron Hailstorm

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Now there is a blast from the past, I haven't thought of him in years.
He sure looked the part, but what a disappointment.

warhawk
9 years ago

This is one of the biggest pet peeves I have... injuries are different than just not living up to potential because of a misread in talent or effort. At least in the context when fans use the word bust.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


Kind of like getting in a car wreck that is totally the other guys fault doesn't make you a bad driver. Murphy was headed very much in the right direction but went down before he could barely get started. Damn shame, yeah, but doesn't make him a bust.

IMO a bust is a player picked in the first 3 rounds or so and never amounts to anything on any team. Sometimes a player can be placed in a scheme that just doesn't work to their strengths and turn out decent in one that does. If your picked fairly early and can't play anywhere that is a bust.

On a side note doesn't it seem like the Packers lose more than their share of players to career ending injuries? Collins, Finley, Murphy, Harrell, off the top of my head. I'm quite sure the other 31 teams haven't lost 4 or 5 players forever over a 5 year span or so. That would be like 130 players.

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nerdmann
9 years ago

Kind of like getting in a car wreck that is totally the other guys fault doesn't make you a bad driver. Murphy was headed very much in the right direction but went down before he could barely get started. Damn shame, yeah, but doesn't make him a bust.

IMO a bust is a player picked in the first 3 rounds or so and never amounts to anything on any team. Sometimes a player can be placed in a scheme that just doesn't work to their strengths and turn out decent in one that does. If your picked fairly early and can't play anywhere that is a bust.

On a side note doesn't it seem like the Packers lose more than their share of players to career ending injuries? Collins, Finley, Murphy, Harrell, off the top of my head. I'm quite sure the other 31 teams haven't lost 4 or 5 players forever over a 5 year span or so. That would be like 130 players.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



People talk shit about Ted all the time. Imagine if he didn't have to re-draft players like Nick Collins and Jmike.
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