Wade
  • Wade
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9 years ago
1. "NFL bans all chop blocks"

For all PH readers: What will this imply for the effectiveness of a "zone-blocking" team like the Packers? Will this rule change reveal "the quality Packer OL" most of you seem to consider sufficient to be/become the "below average to serviceable to average" line I and a few others have been complaining/whining about for years?

2. "Bruce Arians: If you don't win the Super Bowl it's not a good year".

For all PH readers, but especially those of you apologists who consider (a) Ted's approach to off-season player FA/trade acquisition the best one and/or (b) Mike McMarthy to be a sufficiently good coach: Would you not rather have Arians' attitude be the one that Thompson and McCarthy had instead of being content with being the best in the NFC North year after year?

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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

1. "NFL bans all chop blocks"

For all PH readers: What will this imply for the effectiveness of a "zone-blocking" team like the Packers? Will this rule change reveal "the quality Packer OL" most of you seem to consider sufficient to be/become the "below average to serviceable to average" line I and a few others have been complaining/whining about for years?

2. "Bruce Arians: If you don't win the Super Bowl it's not a good year".

For all PH readers, but especially those of you apologists who consider (a) Ted's approach to off-season player FA/trade acquisition the best one and/or (b) Mike McMarthy to be a sufficiently good coach: Would you not rather have Arians' attitude be the one that Thompson and McCarthy had instead of being content with being the best in the NFC North year after year?

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Every single non PH reader reading PH (ummm what?!?) just took a huge sigh of relief as you pointlessly singled out just the PH readers.


Regarding #2 --- Mike McCarthy AND Ted Thompson have BOTH said similar damn things!!!! The difference is Bruce will step on your damn throat and Mike will politely ask "umm sir, have you had enough?" and lower his guard.



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nerdmann
9 years ago
Fuck zone blocking.
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DoddPower
9 years ago

Every single non PH reader reading PH (ummm what?!?) just took a huge sigh of relief as you pointlessly singled out just the PH readers.


Regarding #2 --- Mike McCarthy AND Ted Thompson have BOTH said similar damn things!!!! The difference is Bruce will step on your damn throat and Mike will politely ask "umm sir, have you had enough?" and lower his guard.


Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I thought McCarthy's attitude during the 2010 playoff run was nice. Getting players sized for rings and such before the game. The Packers need more attitude.
Cheesey
9 years ago

I thought McCarthy's attitude during the 2010 playoff run was nice. Getting players sized for rings and such before the game. The Packers need more attitude.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



True.......now it seems he has them sized for their off season vacation plans.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

I thought McCarthy's attitude during the 2010 playoff run was nice. Getting players sized for rings and such before the game. The Packers need more attitude.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I think that is more of a confidence thing and McCarthy has a lot of confidence. No question. I believe that is part of the problem. The attitude of "Meh, we've scored enough, we can slack off a bit, we got this" rather than the attitude of "Up by 20 with 3 minutes to go? Not enough, GIVE ME MORE POINTS!".
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DoddPower
9 years ago

I think that is more of a confidence thing and McCarthy has a lot of confidence. No question. I believe that is part of the problem. The attitude of "Meh, we've scored enough, we can slack off a bit, we got this" rather than the attitude of "Up by 20 with 3 minutes to go? Not enough, GIVE ME MORE POINTS!".

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The Seattle playoff debacle was inexcusable. Still is. I can't believe so many of the coaches remained standing after that humiliation.
Bigbyfan
9 years ago

I thought McCarthy's attitude during the 2010 playoff run was nice. Getting players sized for rings and such before the game. The Packers need more attitude.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Remember before that season all the players walking out in bolo ties and cowboy hats getting ready for their journey to Dallas (Super Bowl location)? I loved that confidencd.
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macbob
9 years ago
I grew up watching the Lombardi Packers in the 60s. We'd line up, they'd know what was coming and couldn't stop it.

Our power running scheme in 2003 was similar.

I was really pissed when we switched to zone blocking. I hates it.

nerdmann
9 years ago

I grew up watching the Lombardi Packers in the 60s. We'd line up, they'd know what was coming and couldn't stop it.

Our power running scheme in 2003 was similar.

I was really pissed when we switched to zone blocking. I hates it.

Originally Posted by: macbob 



That zBS shit set our team back for years. Mike always asking for "smaller, quicker" offensive linemen, Ted delivering, the smaller quicker guys not working out. Imagine if we could have solidified those positions 3 years earlier.
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