nerdmann
8 years ago

No, I absolutely did NOT forget about Demetri Goodson when talking about the Packers depth being decent and for a damn good reason. He contributes to special teams, that's it.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



He didn't get many chances this past year, but I thought he help up in limited action. Made some very Davon House-like plays down the field.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

He didn't get many chances this past year, but I thought he help up in limited action. Made some very Davon House-like plays down the field.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



If you're trying to use DAVON HOUSE as a positive measuring stick, you're not evaluating appropriately, lol.


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steveishere
8 years ago
Now watch us extend Hyde for 5m/year. Dom is unnaturally in love with that guy. Hopefully in SD Caseys DC doesn't stash him on the bench for an inferior players half the game.
Rockmolder
8 years ago
A shame that Hayward seems to be the only corner who hasn't been overpaid for like crazy. I would've liked an extra thrid rounder.

Just a decent signing by itsself, but a great signing if you compare it to what other CBs are getting this FA period.
Yerko
8 years ago

$5M/yr for Perry or $5.1M/yr for Hayward I am not sure we made the right financial investment there.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Very misleading post...

Perry contract is very Packer friendly. His base is only $2.3 million and then he is paid on roster/workout bonuses, a super bowl bonus and active bonus that can lead up to $5 million. I don't know the details of Hayward's but I am willing to bet it is not very incentive base and he has $6 million in guaranteed money-- Perry doesn't.

Also, in terms of position. I would lean towards the Packers being a little more thin at OLB than at CB. I believe (and I think a majority agrees) that what we got from Randall and Rollins last year was pretty exceptional play. The arrow is pointing up there with those two and if you want to add Gunter to that it looks even better. Hayward was very limited to only slot coverage and even then he had his downfalls after injury.

Outside linebacker is super thin, especially if we are looking at Clay on the inside again. Bringing Perry back on a 1-year, incentive based deal is pretty good if you ask me...especially since he has shown flashes of finally picking up the position. He's on a cheaper BJ Raji "show me" deal.
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8 years ago

$5M/yr for Perry or $5.1M/yr for Hayward I am not sure we made the right financial investment there.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Neither of them have shown themselves worth 5+ million/year.

I'm not bothered by Hayward's departure. Always thought people overrated him.


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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
5 mil/per is to much for 4th CB on the team. I'm not worried about our top 3 now, though the depth needs some work.
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TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago

Very misleading post...

Perry contract is very Packer friendly. His base is only $2.3 million and then he is paid on roster/workout bonuses, a super bowl bonus and active bonus that can lead up to $5 million. I don't know the details of Hayward's but I am willing to bet it is not very incentive base and he has $6 million in guaranteed money-- Perry doesn't.

Also, in terms of position. I would lean towards the Packers being a little more thin at OLB than at CB. I believe (and I think a majority agrees) that what we got from Randall and Rollins last year was pretty exceptional play. The arrow is pointing up there with those two and if you want to add Gunter to that it looks even better. Hayward was very limited to only slot coverage and even then he had his downfalls after injury.

Outside linebacker is super thin, especially if we are looking at Clay on the inside again. Bringing Perry back on a 1-year, incentive based deal is pretty good if you ask me...especially since he has shown flashes of finally picking up the position. He's on a cheaper BJ Raji "show me" deal.

Originally Posted by: Yerko 



It was not a misleading post. The details were just released 2 hours ago on the breakdown and I posted that comment yesterday when the details were not known other than what was first posted online that "Perry, a first-round pick in 2012 out of Southern Cal, can earn $5 million plus incentives in 2016." That made it appear that he was minimum earning $5M. Of course the details that are now emerging is much better and I had advocated for a performance base contract due to his injury history.



TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago

Neither of them have shown themselves worth 5+ million/year.

I'm not bothered by Hayward's departure. Always thought people overrated him.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



I'm not concerned either as I think Gunter will step up and we will likely draft a CB. My initial concerns was the fact we would pay Perry as much as Hayward which to me made little sense as Perry has never shown to be anything other than average and Hayward can at least point to his rookie season as being pretty darn good. Not sure I want more Micah Hyde either.
Yerko
8 years ago

It was not a misleading post. The details were just released 2 hours ago on the breakdown and I posted that comment yesterday when the details were not known other than what was first posted online that "Perry, a first-round pick in 2012 out of Southern Cal, can earn $5 million plus incentives in 2016." That made it appear that he was minimum earning $5M. Of course the details that are now emerging is much better and I had advocated for a performance base contract due to his injury history.



Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Makes sense. I didn't look at the date/time stamp of the post so I apologize.
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