OL trade idea · PACKERSHOME

DakotaT
Select Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

We should send Bulaga, Lindsley, and 4th rounder to Cleveland for Joe Thomas, since they lost Alex Mack today.

We would then have and Oline that line up like this:

LT - Joe Thomas
LG - Sitton
C - Tretter
RG - Lang
RT - Bahktiari

Cleveland would be getting two starters in return for their All Pro tackle, and we would get our good player off the pine and into the lineup.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

We'd still need depth, but it could work.

What would the cap differential be? Would we gain or lose?

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PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

We would probably be coming out ahead on that deal. Cleveland might be more interested in Bahktiari over Bulaga though. Cheaper, younger and less medical history.

We'd still need depth, but it could work.

What would the cap differential be? Would we gain or lose?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

We would increase about getting rid of Linsley and Bulaga would result In about 500K increase in cap hit, plus 9.5million for Thomas contract.

Might be worth it as long as we are able to get depth in the draft.

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Barfarn
Senior Member

9 years ago

Bulaga’s hit is 5.5M in 2016. If we trade him, 6.4M will be the dead money/cap hit. Thomas would cost 8.3M in 2016 [and a favorable 8.8M in 17 and 18 to Bulaga’s 7.9M and 8.4M]. So the trade of Bulaga for Thomas would zap 9.2M of 2016 cap space. Also the only OLmen we’d have under contract in 2017 are Thomas and Taylor and 10.1M less to do anything about it in 2016 and 2017. In 2017, we'd need a lot more than OL depth.

The 4th could be a Lang, Sitton, Baktieri , Linsley or Daniels.

$9M Thomases and $8M Bulagas don’t win championships; it’s guys like Linsley [$2m total for 2016-17] and the guys mentioned above playing cheap and very well that provide the ONLY way for a team to win. Denver won because they had a stable of them: Von Miller, S.Williams, Wolf, Jackson, Travethan, Marshall, Roby, Harris, Barrett, Webster, Anderson, Osweiler. Elway did his very best to eff it all up with FAs!

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Having the stud Thomas in one spot wont help as much as you'd think because D. Coordinators would just attack the weaker players.

blueleopard
Member

9 years ago

Bakhtiai already struggles at the blindside, you think he'd be any better on the right? I sure don't.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

Bakhtiai already struggles at the blindside, you think he'd be any better on the right? I sure don't.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard

David Bahktiari (damn dudes name hard to spell) is an above average LT, that's it. He cannot play RT (my observation/opinion). This trade would weaken our offensive line at LT (depth), RT, C and force our top T backup into playing C. Also, we'd lose a 4th round pick.

LT - Bahktiari
LG - Sitton
C - Linsley
RG - Lang
RT - Bulaga

Backup T - Tretter

When healthy, this is a very solid group that plays above their individual talent.

Joe Thomas is 31, which for Tackle I would say he has 3 - 5 very good seasons left. I would give up the 4th and David Bahktiari for him. The Browns would do this because they know Joe wants out, it would give them another draft pick and free up some salary space.

It makes the most sense for both teams.

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

Browns have wanted two first round picks for LT Joe Thomas... I'm not sure if Bulaga, Lindsley, and 4th rounder come close enough. Plus it hurts the Packers who could be in the last year with their starting OGs, and as others have talked about, Bak struggles most with power moves which he would probably see more of at any of the other OL positions.

It might be easier and cheaper to just draft OTs Jack Conklin or Taylor Decker in the first round. Though they're not as much of a sure thing as Joe Thomas, but you get to keep all (or most) of the other OL and they'll probably be playing after Thomas retire.

Plus I think Bulaga or Conklin could be moved to OG and be one of the best OGs in the NFL (not as sure with Decker on that). Of course that's assuming Bulaga can stay healthy.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

9 years ago

I like the idea of Thomas, Sitton, Tretter, Taylor, Bulaga as the starters Lang should have some value in trade and we are likely to lose him after this season as well as losing Tretter if he doesn't become the starting C he is not a long term starter at any other position on the line but is flexible to be able to play them all in a pinch, Linsley doesn't have that flexibility.

Thomas is a huge upgrade over Bahktiari, Tretter/Linsley is about push, Sitton and Bulaga would be the same, and Taylor is likely to be a decline from Lang right away at least. I like the about 12lbs of increased size Tretter and Taylor would have over Linsley and Lang. Would be a tough line, and I think having an in shape lacy running behind that left side would be fun to watch.

Until the season starts, we can dream.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: beast

We've got OGs.

Bakhtiaria would by my swing tackle. Coming off the bench would lengthen his career after all those knee surgeries. Plus he's proven he can play both sides.

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DakotaT
Select Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#10

David Bahktiari (damn dudes name hard to spell) is an above average LT, that's it. He cannot play RT (my observation/opinion).

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

He is not an above average Left Tackle and he belongs at right tackle. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten Rodgers killed already.

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